utkinpol

i would not worry about that. I wil simply buy NB car and move my suspension into it. I just hope (fingers crossed) that they will not mess up suspension too much. but looking at 991 body, well, anyway, in 12-15 months we will see it all most likely. not that much more time to wait.

what I really wish is for liquidation sale on current mezgers engines with transmission, for, say, $5K a pair. I would simply get 2 and would be all set for life.

ADias

I think that restrictors are there to satisfy sports regs. High specific power comes at a price - reliability. I remember the 100HP/l milestone achieved in race cars in the late 60s. An RSR has its engine rebuilt, what? 30-40h?

Larry Cable

Group buy!

utkinpol

i have learned post factum last year end they had some crazy deals on M97 X51 engines. i even thnk somebody posted about it on rennlist.
so, who knows.

MarekN

Hi Jim, yeah, I would say we have it pretty good here. I think in Slovakia there may even be a higher concentration of them, though.
I don´t know why that is, they say it´s something in the water...

aussie jimmy

damn! yeah, the water...the genetics are fine there. the proportions......beautiful!
my beloved r32 was made in bratislava, made with love, by fine specimens.
i heard budapest was good too?

FFaust

I was actually going to chime in but did not want to offend anyone. But since you brought it up, my vote goes to Budapest. YMMV

TrackDays247.com

Check back on this thread in a few years for la verdad ;-)
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GVA-SFO

Interesting to read this "PDK allergy" on a GT3 forum.
OK, I would for sure not buy a daily 911 (that's what I have been doing non stop since 28 years) with PDK, but, if I would buy a track car, then no doubt that "PDK" would be simply a MUST !

Well, I should add that if I would buy a track car, then, I would definitively choose one that have the engine at the right place, because I'm not good enough to manage the transfer of masses within less than 1/10 of sec. !

In conclusion, for my eyes, the rumored 991 GT3 finally goes in the direction of what it should be.
(The only remaining problems is all the “heavy” stuff needed to ..own a road license plate).

tradervic

hi guys,

interesting discussion here. I can't wait for a gt3 with PDK.

if this happens, when can we expect it may take place? which MY?

thanks,

Vic

TRAKCAR

2014/2015 If history repeats itself.

WSH

2004-2005
2007-2008
2010-2011

2013-2014 if history repeats US trend

wsh

TRAKCAR

I was thinking:

996 intro 1999 GT3 came 2004 5 years for completely new model.
997 intro 2005 GT3 came 2007 2 years for facelift

I figure the 991 is completely model, so 2014/2015..

plima

A few random thoughts: I've helped rebuild 2 Fuhrmann engines, I've done several Metzger engines from 1965-1975 and note that you can put 3 Metzger engines together in the time it takes to time the valves in the Fuhrmann! I'd guess that the 9A1 is inherently simpler to build; Porsche learns very well from experience. I owned my first 911 (1968 911L) for 20 years, put 250K miles on it with many track days, and (with the very notable exception of chain tensioners) it was very reliable. My current (2004 GT3) car only has 43K miles and several track days on it, but in every way is a big step forward from the 1968 (more fun to drive daily, more fun on the track, much much faster, much better mileage, way way way less maintenance, etc. etc. etc) Again, Porsche learns very well from experience. I'll bet the next gen GT cars will be awesome and another step forward. Btw, I don't necessarily agree that faster is more fun; my 996 GT3 is a pretty basic/simple car compared to current models. It isn't as quick, but I think the "fun quotient" is still right up there!

Carrera GT

You've had a wealth of experience! One of these days I'll try my hand at rebuilding a 911 engine. I can count all the engines I've had apart on one hand and still be holding a torque wrench. A couple of push rod boat engines, motorcycles (two strokes don't count) and farm equipment. Maybe I should start with a Porsche diesel tractor.
I think you're right to set high expectations for the next engine to go into a GT3. I think that most of the "fear and loathing" of what Porsche has been saying and doing relates back to this green push, electric hybrids, etc., and the fear of the unknown from VW. If VW's history repeats (as with Bugatti and Lamborghini) we'll see some continuation of the marque, but eventual dissolution into a vat of VW and Audi parts. And then the car is gone.

I don't have such a strong bond with the GT1 engine in any case. I'd like the power and torque curve, the red line, the overall durability (notwithstanding some design flaws) and even the sound is important. I wonder if a "power kit" Carrera engine can really fill those shoes. Still, give me 450 hp and PDK with a 9K or (please) 10K red line and I'll stand in the "no substitute" religion.

ps. If you're in Carson, NV, you're practically neighbors with The Savyboy ... I understand he's giving out free launch control moon shot rides ...