Feeling like I made a mistake....
#91
Rennlist Member
Sounds like it's maybe not the right car. Now is probably the best time to make a change if so. But before you sell make sure you find some area and weather to enter a turn hot, massage the understeer and front end via trailbraking, then maintenance throttle until full throttle a split second after the apex. Just to be sure you're not going to miss what is one of the most unique cornering experiences one can have with four wheels.
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#92
Burning Brakes
At least keep it through the summer and good driving conditions. I have owned a 991.2 since spring 2016 and don't drive the car a lot, but once in awhile have one of those drives that remind me why I bought the car in the first place. I plan on moving the car down to California where I think it will be a lot more fun due to the better weather and so many good roads to drive on.
If, after the summer, you still are not loving the car then sell it. At this rate you will get more than what you paid for it.
I am under a bit of pressure to trade my 911 for something that can support a full size baby seat, but I know if I let the 911 go then I doubt I will ever have another one. So for now the 911 stays!
If, after the summer, you still are not loving the car then sell it. At this rate you will get more than what you paid for it.
I am under a bit of pressure to trade my 911 for something that can support a full size baby seat, but I know if I let the 911 go then I doubt I will ever have another one. So for now the 911 stays!
#93
Racer
Amazing thread
#94
Instructor
I live in NJ (a little more central than you, but pretty close to as congested), and there is a real lack of good driving roads down here. I'd definitely give it through at least May, and see if you can't make some time to enjoy some drives, as well as some HPDE and other events. Outside of taking it on some short blasts up Rt 1 where I can hear the engine come alive, there's nowhere in the immediate area to really enjoy it without traffic getting in the way. (Maybe a nice, curvy uphill spot coming off Rt 22 heading up toward Warren, but that's way too short). But give yourself a little time as the weather breaks and the road salt disappears for you to find your own local nuggets that you can get some "therapy time" behind the wheel.
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mc3456 (03-26-2022)
#95
Instructor
I live in NJ (a little more central than you, but pretty close to as congested), and there is a real lack of good driving roads down here. I'd definitely give it through at least May, and see if you can't make some time to enjoy some drives, as well as some HPDE and other events. Outside of taking it on some short blasts up Rt 1 where I can hear the engine come alive, there's nowhere in the immediate area to really enjoy it without traffic getting in the way. (Maybe a nice, curvy uphill spot coming off Rt 22 heading up toward Warren, but that's way too short). But give yourself a little time as the weather breaks and the road salt disappears for you to find your own local nuggets that you can get some "therapy time" behind the wheel.
But yes, overall agree NJ does not have much "fun" roads that are free of other drivers.
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NJBThor (03-27-2022)
#96
Instructor
It all depends on what you want out of the driving. If going crazy fast speeds for long periods of distance, then no, there is nothing safe and realistic in NJ. Even what I had mentioned about Pulasky Skywalk late at night/early morning, is nothing I would do nowadays and consistently. If looking for local twisty roads to test the handling, then there are few country roads more to the west near borders of the Del Water Gap that can give some good drives and turns. You just have to find your own joy in what you have, and then of course there are also two tracks (maybe three?) in NJ that you can go onto for a more controlled fast fun.
But yes, overall agree NJ does not have much "fun" roads that are free of other drivers.
But yes, overall agree NJ does not have much "fun" roads that are free of other drivers.
I've driven my 911 down to Florida last year, and it wasn't that bad. Not like driving a luxury car, but I enjoyed it (except for the traffic). But I agree, its all about finding the drives you love, and that's on the individual.
#97
RL Community Team
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Haven’t read all of the posts. Sorry. If you bought it because you thought you would like it, that’s OK. If others like it and you don’t, that too is OK. You bought it during the winter in NJ and are surprised that you are not driving it much? Get snow tires on it and drive year round. Maybe the NA is not for you. The 991.2 with PDK is a totally different car. Much better for some of us and not the case for others that love NA and manual transmissions. Did you over spend on this purchase and have buyers remorse. In the end drive it when the weather warms up. If you still don’t love it then sell it. No big deal. If you love how your SUV drives then maybe the 911 is not for you. Best to you.
#98
I'm still loving mine. Crazy how capable that car is...and it's PDK ( too much city driving here to enjoy a 6MT).
I feel for the OP. We all have bought stuff that was supposed to be "The Thing" and it just wasn't. At least not for our personal application at that time factoring in where you live.
I traded my 991.2 GT3 (LOVED that damn car) in for a 992TTS. The Turbo S just works better for where I live right now. Not many twisties here. Pretty flat -- a waste of a car like a 991.2 GT3. The Turbo S is mind-blowingly quick and now has some GT roughness baked into in the 992 range (far less so for the 991's and earlier). It hit all the buttons for me and I am enjoying it. On days when its sunny and warm (aka - yesterday), jumping in the GTS Targa is magic.
Good luck to OP finding the right thing for him. What are you in now, Bob? (EDIT -- just now seeing you are in a Spyder -- very nice....fantastic car and package).
ALSO TO THE OP -- I had a 2019.2 RR Sport with the V-8 (non RVR) and the damn brakes warped within 10k miles. Happily, I just leased it and returned it at end of lease. Hopefully, your brakes hold up better than mine did.
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SB27 (03-27-2022)
#100
Pro
Hmmmm .... an interesting and thought provoking scenario.
I like my 991.1 cab - first Porsche - only had it four months - put about 300 miles on it - obviously not a daily driver, nor would it make, for me a good daily driver.
I accepted I would not be driving it often - weather, traffic, etc (yeah, agree with others - your area is pretty awful for this sort of car - like driving in London and immediate surrounds)- it was never intended to be an either/or driver, but an occasional fun, listen to the engine car.
Am I convinced it is the best car - of any kind - in the world? Nah. But, I am realistic about it's utility. If I only had a single garage, would I keep it and sell the Subaru Ascent? Nah.
So, go to a local PCA event, giggle a bit, listen to stories, have a beer - and, think about it.
BTW - the reason I targeted the 991.1 was it was rougher and less well behaved than the later 991.2 I drove. I really liked the sound and feel of the M4 cab, but the horror stories about quality issues turned me off. It would have been more comfortable to get in and out of (I'm 6'1"), and a better daily driver - but. going back to intent, this was a sunny day car :-)
I've rambled on ...
I like my 991.1 cab - first Porsche - only had it four months - put about 300 miles on it - obviously not a daily driver, nor would it make, for me a good daily driver.
I accepted I would not be driving it often - weather, traffic, etc (yeah, agree with others - your area is pretty awful for this sort of car - like driving in London and immediate surrounds)- it was never intended to be an either/or driver, but an occasional fun, listen to the engine car.
Am I convinced it is the best car - of any kind - in the world? Nah. But, I am realistic about it's utility. If I only had a single garage, would I keep it and sell the Subaru Ascent? Nah.
So, go to a local PCA event, giggle a bit, listen to stories, have a beer - and, think about it.
BTW - the reason I targeted the 991.1 was it was rougher and less well behaved than the later 991.2 I drove. I really liked the sound and feel of the M4 cab, but the horror stories about quality issues turned me off. It would have been more comfortable to get in and out of (I'm 6'1"), and a better daily driver - but. going back to intent, this was a sunny day car :-)
I've rambled on ...
#101
Three Wheelin'
Then the fun starts as you hone your skills and then you start to understand and become one with the machine .."Wax on, wax off."
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#103
Burning Brakes
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I don't think he was trying to be offensive, he stated a fact. There's a huge difference between driving a Rover and a 911. It is universal knowledge that one is a huge brick on wheels driven mostly by wealthy Moms and the other one is a canyon carving knife. I like both, and I aware each one serves a different purpose. I think most people here got taken by surprise when the OP compared one driving style with a completely different one.
Lighten up mate, this is the internet. Everyone will have an opinion about your opinion.
Lighten up mate, this is the internet. Everyone will have an opinion about your opinion.
#104
I totally did the same thing… I purchased a 991.1 early last year. It was a great 4S car with the options I was looking for. Drove it home from out of state and quickly felt like it wasn’t exactly what I wanted…. I kept the car for about 3 months, did some shows, some cruises, but it never quite felt like the Porsche I wanted. So long story short, I decided that the problem I had with the car was 1 - it wasn’t a manual (I convinced my self I didn’t need the manual) 2 - I really enjoyed the low end power of TT. My other cars are all turboed or electric so I have gotten so used to the low end grunt and it was tough for me to really only enjoy the car at 5k+ rpm.
I loved the idea of the car, but not that specific car. I started researching again and came across a .2 Carrera T, with a manual and with the carbon buckets. I drove the car and instantly found what I was missing in my first P car experience. Good or bad, I prefer a motor with low end power and the newer ones provide that in spades. It’s best to be honest with your self and find what you’re really looking for. If this isn’t the car for you, then sell it and either buy a different one or move on all together. You worked hard to get here to be able to purchase a car like this - it’s important you enjoy it!
cheers!
I loved the idea of the car, but not that specific car. I started researching again and came across a .2 Carrera T, with a manual and with the carbon buckets. I drove the car and instantly found what I was missing in my first P car experience. Good or bad, I prefer a motor with low end power and the newer ones provide that in spades. It’s best to be honest with your self and find what you’re really looking for. If this isn’t the car for you, then sell it and either buy a different one or move on all together. You worked hard to get here to be able to purchase a car like this - it’s important you enjoy it!
cheers!
#105
Rennlist Member
Yep ...Stick with the soccer mom rides if that's your thing ...... I compare 911's to sport bikes they are all different and require a very individual finesse .... Their character takes time to be understood , Then and only then when you understand their abilities , quirks and limitations you realize it's not the car but rather the driver.
Then the fun starts as you hone your skills and then you start to understand and become one with the machine .."Wax on, wax off."
Then the fun starts as you hone your skills and then you start to understand and become one with the machine .."Wax on, wax off."
911s are great cars, but if you've ever owned other more engaging cars, then you'd realize they are far from the ultimate vehicle (a highly-subjective metric)...hence why Porsche themselves makes them in a range of flavors from Mild to Wild. No need to make the OP feel bad for not being as impressed with his car as you are. Plus, I'd hardly call 500hp+ SUVs, some capable of 0-60 in a little as 3.2 seconds and 175MPH+ just "soccer mom vehicles".
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