Feeling like I made a mistake....
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#47
Bottom line this is a luxury, a luxury should make you happy. If it doesn't tick all the boxes, simply move on.
Like others have said, its not a mistake, its a learning curve.
I have always loved 911's since I was a child. This is my 3rd and my favorite to date.
After 40+ cars over my lifetime, I keep gravitating back to the 911 and Audi Wagons (for a daily).
Like others have said, its not a mistake, its a learning curve.
I have always loved 911's since I was a child. This is my 3rd and my favorite to date.
After 40+ cars over my lifetime, I keep gravitating back to the 911 and Audi Wagons (for a daily).
#48
Everybody wants one until they actually own one and then quickly realize that the 911 is a sports car with limited utility. It is small, cramped, noisy and has a stiff ride as is typical of most sports cars. Driving it on public roads in large metropolitan areas seems like a waste to me. If one doesn't have access to empty backroads or takes it to the track, it is hard to appreciate the car's capabilities. On and off ramps and the occasional hard corner will get old quickly. In the winters, even with snow tires, driving the 911 can be challenging. Then there is the expensive maintenance and repairs. If one has orthopedic issues or arthritis, driving the car can be painful. It seems a lot of people only put a few thousand miles on the car per year which is why there are so many low mileage 911s. It is an expensive hobby no doubt, owning a 911. My C4S is five years old now and it tough having it as my only car in NH. I only put 4-5k miles on it every year. If one prefers driving a luxury SUV over a 911, the car is not for them IMO.
#49
Sometimes you shouldn’t meet your heroes.
If you don’t click with the 911 or you don’t have the roads to enjoy it without the stress of traffic, then I 100% agree that you should sell it.
No need to force yourself to like something. Sometimes cars don’t live up to expectations, or you don’t live in an environment to enjoy this type of car.
To me, and your location, it sounds like you’d be better off in a V8 TT front engined sports sedan where you can just point and squirt acceleration on the small parts of road you have available.
If you don’t click with the 911 or you don’t have the roads to enjoy it without the stress of traffic, then I 100% agree that you should sell it.
No need to force yourself to like something. Sometimes cars don’t live up to expectations, or you don’t live in an environment to enjoy this type of car.
To me, and your location, it sounds like you’d be better off in a V8 TT front engined sports sedan where you can just point and squirt acceleration on the small parts of road you have available.
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#51
The title of the thread reminds me of the question "Should I have a crap before I leave the house"? If you ask the question, you've already answered it. If it doesn't float your boat, move on to something that does.
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#52
You sure it's not just NJ bringing you down? lol. If you enjoy the Land Rover better, then maybe a Cayenne is more for you.
I find it difficult to drive around briskly around the main parks of NJ also. Most of the time the parkway or turnpike have too many cars to drive briskly and safely. Local roads are filled with idiots that can barely drive, and it's NJ's own fault for driving tests being in closed test courses, and then when people go into the real world driving, they don't know what do when cars and people are actually around them.
I find it surprising that you've wanted one for so long and it's been disappointing so far. I've also wanted one since I was about 12, building my first scale model 911 cabriolet. I have no disappointments with my C2 cab at all. I feel the power is enough, more than enough. Each time I drive, I feel like I'm holding back about 100 of those horses.
If you are on Facebook, I can PM you with a group that meets every quarter or so in NJ (it's of NJ and area owners). We cruise the north west of NJ and get to "air out" our cars a little.
I see you have winter tires, so try to get more road time in and take the backroads through say Flemington, into Frenchtown and Milford, then drive along 29 down to New Hope. The speed limit is slow (25mph in some spots) but it's 40 mph in a lot of others. Take some sharp turns hard that you know the Land Rover couldn't do, and you'll enjoy the 911 more.
Anyway, like others are saying, only since Dec. Give it a few more warms months, and if you still are not connecting, then you're not connecting. Maybe reality didn't live up to expectations, so that happens.
I find it difficult to drive around briskly around the main parks of NJ also. Most of the time the parkway or turnpike have too many cars to drive briskly and safely. Local roads are filled with idiots that can barely drive, and it's NJ's own fault for driving tests being in closed test courses, and then when people go into the real world driving, they don't know what do when cars and people are actually around them.
I find it surprising that you've wanted one for so long and it's been disappointing so far. I've also wanted one since I was about 12, building my first scale model 911 cabriolet. I have no disappointments with my C2 cab at all. I feel the power is enough, more than enough. Each time I drive, I feel like I'm holding back about 100 of those horses.
If you are on Facebook, I can PM you with a group that meets every quarter or so in NJ (it's of NJ and area owners). We cruise the north west of NJ and get to "air out" our cars a little.
I see you have winter tires, so try to get more road time in and take the backroads through say Flemington, into Frenchtown and Milford, then drive along 29 down to New Hope. The speed limit is slow (25mph in some spots) but it's 40 mph in a lot of others. Take some sharp turns hard that you know the Land Rover couldn't do, and you'll enjoy the 911 more.
Anyway, like others are saying, only since Dec. Give it a few more warms months, and if you still are not connecting, then you're not connecting. Maybe reality didn't live up to expectations, so that happens.
#53
On our first drive with our Porsche, we took the highway to the mountains. When we got there my wife could see I was disappointed. I thought, is this what a Porsche 911 is? Meh!
Then after lunch we went to a winding mountain road that I knew and boy did my enjoyment change. I had a big smile now. And I told my wife, the decision to buy a 911 was a good one.
You have to go drive the car where it will be able to show you what it can do. Driving in town or on the highway is not doing justice to the 911.
Go find some twisties!
Then after lunch we went to a winding mountain road that I knew and boy did my enjoyment change. I had a big smile now. And I told my wife, the decision to buy a 911 was a good one.
You have to go drive the car where it will be able to show you what it can do. Driving in town or on the highway is not doing justice to the 911.
Go find some twisties!
#54
On our first drive with our Porsche, we took the highway to the mountains. When we got there my wife could see I was disappointed. I thought, is this what a Porsche 911 is? Meh!
Then after lunch we went to a winding mountain road that I knew and boy did my enjoyment change. I had a big smile now. And I told my wife, the decision to buy a 911 was a good one.
You have to go drive the car where it will be able to show you what it can do. Driving in town or on the highway is not doing justice to the 911.
Go find some twisties!
Then after lunch we went to a winding mountain road that I knew and boy did my enjoyment change. I had a big smile now. And I told my wife, the decision to buy a 911 was a good one.
You have to go drive the car where it will be able to show you what it can do. Driving in town or on the highway is not doing justice to the 911.
Go find some twisties!
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#56
I have basically the same setup as you, 991.1 C2S PDK and an LR LR4, and live in a similar location. I love them both. I take my LR on the beach all year to surf.
IMO wait for the nice weather to hit around here, these cars aren't great in the Tri-State winter. I use winter as a time to modify/service the car. Also, try to do a track day at NJMP or NYST with a group like Track Xperienz. These cars are on another level on the track.
https://www.trackxperienz.com/
I might be doing the 5/16 event at NJMP with a friend with a 997.2 GT3.
Parking lot meets always bore me, but the Caffeine and Carburetors events in CT are worth the trip, and the drive to the town is always a fun one. Sometimes you can run into a nice pack of cars en route which can make things spicy... Will likely go to the 4/24 meet.
https://caffeineandcarburetors.com/
IMO wait for the nice weather to hit around here, these cars aren't great in the Tri-State winter. I use winter as a time to modify/service the car. Also, try to do a track day at NJMP or NYST with a group like Track Xperienz. These cars are on another level on the track.
https://www.trackxperienz.com/
I might be doing the 5/16 event at NJMP with a friend with a 997.2 GT3.
Parking lot meets always bore me, but the Caffeine and Carburetors events in CT are worth the trip, and the drive to the town is always a fun one. Sometimes you can run into a nice pack of cars en route which can make things spicy... Will likely go to the 4/24 meet.
https://caffeineandcarburetors.com/
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#57
maybe you waited too long to get a 911 and once you got it, your expectations were not met…Nothing wrong with that.
am curious. What do people around you think of the 911? And the range? Which one gets you more compliments and wow factor?
am curious. What do people around you think of the 911? And the range? Which one gets you more compliments and wow factor?
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#58
I live in the Northeast as well and literally do a layup on my insurance for my 911 from Jan - March (costs me less to insure my 911 than my 2015 GTI).
This means that I don't drive my 911 at all during the winter months. The roads are horrible and the weather is not good = not fun.
Give it till April or May for the weather to truly break so you can go out and have some real fun with the car.
TBH, I didn't bond with my car right away as I didn't get much time to drive it. The more I drive it, the better I like it. It is a different experience than most cars and might take some time to get the feeling of what the car is about.
GL!
This means that I don't drive my 911 at all during the winter months. The roads are horrible and the weather is not good = not fun.
Give it till April or May for the weather to truly break so you can go out and have some real fun with the car.
TBH, I didn't bond with my car right away as I didn't get much time to drive it. The more I drive it, the better I like it. It is a different experience than most cars and might take some time to get the feeling of what the car is about.
GL!
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#60
I dont think a HPDE or auto-x is your cure all here. It doesnt seem like you had a track bug and bought the 911. You wanted it since you were 6 because its iconic. I think you are also judging a car during the worst part of the calendar, weather wise. I would go nuts buying a car in the middle of winter that would essentially sit until it was nice enough to drive. I park my Porsches from about December until April (living in the Midwest)...if you asked me if I connected with my cars during those months, the answer would be no until I pull up the camera or walk into my shop and just look at them. I also love working on them so I plan projects over the winter months to keep things interesting until the weather turns. The months I do get to drive them more than makeup for when they sit on a tender.