Newbie 2017 Porsche 911 4s owner (rough start on forum)
11-17-2020, 06:13 PM
#31
John: Porsche also want to make the car feel sporty so the dampers are set firmly. If you want to smooth out the ride on the concrete bridges there in Tampa, get a DSC sport suspension module. Best investment.
https://www.dscsport.com
tires- need Michelin Sport 4S for Tampa rainy days. Consider lower tire pressure to comfort, ie 34-35 front and 36-38 psi when warm. Cold morning Start about 3-4 psi lower
https://www.dscsport.com
tires- need Michelin Sport 4S for Tampa rainy days. Consider lower tire pressure to comfort, ie 34-35 front and 36-38 psi when warm. Cold morning Start about 3-4 psi lower
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11-17-2020, 06:22 PM
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From my experience, my 2018 C4S manual is a fun car for backroads and reasonably tolerable for highway driving. It IS noisy and changing tires to Michelins help only marginally. Ride comfort is quite good with comfort pressure. I’m in my fourth year of ownership and the car has been dead reliable. As a sports car, I think it is quite remarkable that Porsche is able to deliver such a refined driving experience (except for tire noise) and excellent handling in such a useable package. In the 992, noise-reducing glass is an option so I am guessing Porsche understands that 911s do generate a lot of road noise.
Should also mention that I run winter tires mounted on 19 inch wheels for 4-5 months of the year and they are quieter than my summer Michelins. I spoke to the service manager (seems knowledgeable) at the local dealer and he attributed a lot of the noise to the tread pattern and summer compound of the Michelins. Don't know if that is true.
Should also mention that I run winter tires mounted on 19 inch wheels for 4-5 months of the year and they are quieter than my summer Michelins. I spoke to the service manager (seems knowledgeable) at the local dealer and he attributed a lot of the noise to the tread pattern and summer compound of the Michelins. Don't know if that is true.
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11-17-2020, 07:17 PM
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11-17-2020, 07:21 PM
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You and I are in the same boat- I also have a 2017 C4S in GT Silver and came from a BMW F10 550ix. The 550ix was an incredible car- I liked it so much that I bought a 2020 M550 (G30) to replace it. But as you've found , the 911 is a very different experience. It is much noisier, not just from the tires but also the lack of sound insulation. No easy way (other than ear plugs) of getting around that. Of course the ride is also much stiffer, but that is part of the 911 "experience". I love both cars because they are so different and yet so capable in their own ways. The Michelins will slightly improve road noise. The improvement in ride quality compared to the Pirellis was more noticeable. As others have stated, lowering the tire pressure also helps a lot. I use 28/34 in summer and 32/38 in colder temps.
11-17-2020, 07:36 PM
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Hah, '17 C4S GT Silver gang represent!
11-17-2020, 08:40 PM
#37
You and I are in the same boat- I also have a 2017 C4S in GT Silver and came from a BMW F10 550ix. The 550ix was an incredible car- I liked it so much that I bought a 2020 M550 (G30) to replace it. But as you've found , the 911 is a very different experience. It is much noisier, not just from the tires but also the lack of sound insulation. No easy way (other than ear plugs) of getting around that. Of course the ride is also much stiffer, but that is part of the 911 "experience". I love both cars because they are so different and yet so capable in their own ways. The Michelins will slightly improve road noise. The improvement in ride quality compared to the Pirellis was more noticeable. As others have stated, lowering the tire pressure also helps a lot. I use 28/34 in summer and 32/38 in colder temps.
11-17-2020, 09:37 PM
#38
Welcome John! Your car looks like it was well ordered and well bought. Congratulations. I know you will like it. I know we all want you to enjoy it thoroughly.
I too cringe when the car starts moving and I can hear the road rash sandblasting the wheel wells and wheel arches. I will never get use to that sound. I have P-Zeros on my '18 and they love to fling stones as well as sing. I will migrate to Michelin next summer. All the advice you have been receiving here is spot on. I think adjusting your tire pressure will add to your comfort a lot. Noise reduction in my car dropped a lot when I added some foam inserts to expand the rear parcel shelf to carry my dog and larger parcels. I wasn't looking for that, but it was a nice bonus. It didn't add any weight either. Here are some pictures to help explain:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1200...ification.html
When you get some miles on your car, you will undoubtedly get some paint chips. Before I added film, I got a few that were really deep. You could see the white paint "primer?" underneath. Anyway, with your expertise in the car business, could you possibly post some thoughts on how to fill/level and blend Porsche paint chips once you experience this issue? I've had Mercedes, RR, Subaru and Saabs that didn't chip like this Porsche. Best of luck and welcome aboard!
I too cringe when the car starts moving and I can hear the road rash sandblasting the wheel wells and wheel arches. I will never get use to that sound. I have P-Zeros on my '18 and they love to fling stones as well as sing. I will migrate to Michelin next summer. All the advice you have been receiving here is spot on. I think adjusting your tire pressure will add to your comfort a lot. Noise reduction in my car dropped a lot when I added some foam inserts to expand the rear parcel shelf to carry my dog and larger parcels. I wasn't looking for that, but it was a nice bonus. It didn't add any weight either. Here are some pictures to help explain:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1200...ification.html
When you get some miles on your car, you will undoubtedly get some paint chips. Before I added film, I got a few that were really deep. You could see the white paint "primer?" underneath. Anyway, with your expertise in the car business, could you possibly post some thoughts on how to fill/level and blend Porsche paint chips once you experience this issue? I've had Mercedes, RR, Subaru and Saabs that didn't chip like this Porsche. Best of luck and welcome aboard!
11-17-2020, 09:54 PM
#39
Welcome John! Your car looks like it was well ordered and well bought. Congratulations. I know you will like it. I know we all want you to enjoy it thoroughly.
I too cringe when the car starts moving and I can hear the road rash sandblasting the wheel wells and wheel arches. I will never get use to that sound. I have P-Zeros on my '18 and they love to fling stones as well as sing. I will migrate to Michelin next summer. All the advice you have been receiving here is spot on. I think adjusting your tire pressure will add to your comfort a lot. Noise reduction in my car dropped a lot when I added some foam inserts to expand the rear parcel shelf to carry my dog and larger parcels. I wasn't looking for that, but it was a nice bonus. It didn't add any weight either. Here are some pictures to help explain:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1200...ification.html
When you get some miles on your car, you will undoubtedly get some paint chips. Before I added film, I got a few that were really deep. You could see the white paint "primer?" underneath. Anyway, with your expertise in the car business, could you possibly post some thoughts on how to fill/level and blend Porsche paint chips once you experience this issue? I've had Mercedes, RR, Subaru and Saabs that didn't chip like this Porsche. Best of luck and welcome aboard!
I too cringe when the car starts moving and I can hear the road rash sandblasting the wheel wells and wheel arches. I will never get use to that sound. I have P-Zeros on my '18 and they love to fling stones as well as sing. I will migrate to Michelin next summer. All the advice you have been receiving here is spot on. I think adjusting your tire pressure will add to your comfort a lot. Noise reduction in my car dropped a lot when I added some foam inserts to expand the rear parcel shelf to carry my dog and larger parcels. I wasn't looking for that, but it was a nice bonus. It didn't add any weight either. Here are some pictures to help explain:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1200...ification.html
When you get some miles on your car, you will undoubtedly get some paint chips. Before I added film, I got a few that were really deep. You could see the white paint "primer?" underneath. Anyway, with your expertise in the car business, could you possibly post some thoughts on how to fill/level and blend Porsche paint chips once you experience this issue? I've had Mercedes, RR, Subaru and Saabs that didn't chip like this Porsche. Best of luck and welcome aboard!
As for the paint chips are you saying you put the film over the chips or am I not understanding?
11-17-2020, 10:38 PM
#41
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When you get some miles on your car, you will undoubtedly get some paint chips. Before I added film, I got a few that were really deep. You could see the white paint "primer?" underneath. Anyway, with your expertise in the car business, could you possibly post some thoughts on how to fill/level and blend Porsche paint chips once you experience this issue? I've had Mercedes, RR, Subaru and Saabs that didn't chip like this Porsche. Best of luck and welcome aboard!
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11-17-2020, 10:52 PM
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Welcome!
First, outstanding choice of color--truly classic Porsche.
Second, don't mind the crabby or snarky feedback on Rennlist. Most of us are fun most of the time.
Third, I don't think you are at all misguided in wanting a 991 as a reasonably comfortable GT. That was my goal and is my primary use. Like others, I have worked a bit to quiet the cabin. See my thread about adding sound insulation in the rear wheel wells and in the doors.
First, outstanding choice of color--truly classic Porsche.
Second, don't mind the crabby or snarky feedback on Rennlist. Most of us are fun most of the time.
Third, I don't think you are at all misguided in wanting a 991 as a reasonably comfortable GT. That was my goal and is my primary use. Like others, I have worked a bit to quiet the cabin. See my thread about adding sound insulation in the rear wheel wells and in the doors.
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11-17-2020, 10:57 PM
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Hello everyone. I got off to a not so great experience on this forum. I originally posted on the wrong area first of all I was just inquiring about road noise and how I came from a BMW m550. Most replies were nice but some ripped me for not knowing what I was getting into and outright insulting me. I’m hoping to redeem myself after all all I did was buy a car. Yes I’m not a pure Porsche enthusiast atleast not yet. Anyway I do know cars and actually I am in the car business and built some beautiful cars. As the tittle says I’m a newbie to Porsche. I always loved the way they looked. I recently stopped at the dealer and saw this CPO 2017 911 4S. I drive it and loved it. I didn’t really spend much time driving it on the highway at higher speeds and for that I guess I was hasty because I didn’t hear the road noise. I guess I didn’t do enough research before I pulled the trigger. I just knew it was a Porsche and know they have a great name And and really how much Research do I have to do. And yes I know it’s a lot of money. I did t want to lose the car because it only has 10k mikes and it’s like brand new. Anyway some of the replies like I said were outright nasty but some were very nice and helped me and pointed me in the direction of new tires. They mentioned that the Michelin ps4s might help a lot with road noise. I now have pzeros. The reason I’m posting again is to first of all be in the right section of the forums. I believe I am now since I have a 2017. I’m embarrassed to mention I’m assuming my car is considered a 991 or 991.2 (if someone can help me with this) I Did not buy this car for prestige like some said on the last posts. I always had nice cars I just love cars. I was tired of the BMW 4 doors and don’t like there 2 doors. I wanted a coupe. I also wanted a hard top and a car I can use as a dd unless weather is bad. (I have an f150 as well if needed) I’m just looking for some positive posts to reinsure I didn’t get to hasty and I’m sure these are amazing cars and I want to learn more about them. I don’t know why some need to abuse people that don’t have a 100 years of experience and knowledge about a subject. Like I should have researched this to death. I don’t believe this is life or death and I don’t live that way. Thanking everyone in advance.
you can tune it, drive it daily as well as take it to the track.
Don’t let anyone get you down.
enjoy the car.
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11-17-2020, 11:04 PM
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