Ceramic coating worth it?
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Ceramic coating worth it?
I've seen lots of posts about the details of ceramic coatings, but I have a more basic question: Is it worth it to pay an installer $2K do do paint correction and a ceramic coating? My car is new and shiny. Is the correction/coating going to pop in a way that is more than just a marginal improvement, or it necessary to keep a like-new look? Just trying to figure out whether it's worth the spend. Thanks for any input you can offer.
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Three Wheelin'
$2k for paint correction and ceramic seems very steep to me.
I have OptiCoat Pro+ on my daily driver, but it's subjected to winter abuse. I haven't bothered doing it on the 911 as I only drive it on nice days and it looks good enough with a nice simple polish.
That said, ceramic coatings do certainly make the paint easier to clean!
I have OptiCoat Pro+ on my daily driver, but it's subjected to winter abuse. I haven't bothered doing it on the 911 as I only drive it on nice days and it looks good enough with a nice simple polish.
That said, ceramic coatings do certainly make the paint easier to clean!
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Go look at some of your detailer's finished work product and decided for yourself.
There is nothing like the color of fully corrected Paint. Nothing.
I love my ceramic coating. Had OptiCoat Pro for about 4 years. Now have CQuartz Pro.
There is nothing like the color of fully corrected Paint. Nothing.
I love my ceramic coating. Had OptiCoat Pro for about 4 years. Now have CQuartz Pro.
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It's a very subjective question. For that price, you should expect your car to have a mirror like finish from the paint correction and be considerably easier to clean and maintain in the future because the ceramic coating really provides an exceptional slick surface. I take a lot of pride in my cars' appearance and the ceramic coating makes the job a lot easier. I'm a believer, but I should also say that I've gained enough experience now to do a light paint correction and apply a ceramic coating myself so the investment is comparatively smaller. If you do apply a coating, pick up a bottle of Car Pro Reload to maintain the coating - it provides a great gloss and the most hydrophobic surface I've ever experienced.
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That sounds like an installer who thinks they can charge you a "Porsche Tax". Just move along to a different installer and get another quote. Quote should be individually based on initial condition of car (how much correction is needed), and size of car (an SUV takes longer to do and requires more materials).
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I have ceramic coating on my Porsche, and I think it's worth the investment. I paid less than the price mentioned above, and that was for "lifetime service". My detailer will redo the coating every couple of years - I just pay for the new paint correction and detailing, and not the reapplication of the ceramic product. I think ceramic coating really makes a difference on metallic paint.
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I had my car coated with whatever version of Modesta was recommended in early 2016 by a reputable shop. While it did/does create a deep shine and makes the car easier to wash, that version of the product didn't help what I was specifically hoping it would do: prevent water spots. Also, another initial quality that I enjoyed was the ease of drying the vehicle with a leaf blower. While it still helps with the drying, it is not as good when the coating was first applied. I find myself chasing water droplets around the car, trying to get them off of the paint, only now to have to follow up with a micro-fiber towel to completely dry the vehicle.
I paid right at a grand for the paint correction and coating.
I drive a black Targa daily in South Louisiana, rain or shine. Needless to say, we get a lot of rain. Quite often that is followed up by blue sky and lots of sun, heating up the freshly deposited rain water on my paint.
While there may be improvements in the coatings offered today, I am not as tempted to believe that they'll do everything that they say they'll do. Not saying that it is not worth it. But not a cure all. Yet.
Seeing what can be done for the worst possible cases of paint correction, I'd be tempted to skip this coating the next time around. Stick to a good wash regimen (at least a 2 bucket method), and have the basic polishing/waxing tools to make the labor of waxing the paint a little easier. If you see an obvious degradation of your paint's shine over a year's time, then either "paint correct" yourself (clay bar and polish) or pay someone to do just that part. If done right, wash and wax can still compete at a fraction of the cost.
I paid right at a grand for the paint correction and coating.
I drive a black Targa daily in South Louisiana, rain or shine. Needless to say, we get a lot of rain. Quite often that is followed up by blue sky and lots of sun, heating up the freshly deposited rain water on my paint.
While there may be improvements in the coatings offered today, I am not as tempted to believe that they'll do everything that they say they'll do. Not saying that it is not worth it. But not a cure all. Yet.
Seeing what can be done for the worst possible cases of paint correction, I'd be tempted to skip this coating the next time around. Stick to a good wash regimen (at least a 2 bucket method), and have the basic polishing/waxing tools to make the labor of waxing the paint a little easier. If you see an obvious degradation of your paint's shine over a year's time, then either "paint correct" yourself (clay bar and polish) or pay someone to do just that part. If done right, wash and wax can still compete at a fraction of the cost.
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^ So can Ceramic coating be corrected and re applied? I haven't done it........yet.
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Cubs2016, are you in the Chicago area? I know a guy for you.
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Mine has a few minor scratches here and there, but it's not ready to be completely redone yet.
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So where is the value if this stuff still scratches? I will get mine corrected every spring and wash my car once or twice a week and after correction I don't need to wax for a couple of months. Is it easier to clean bugs, sap etc off car?
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I agree with what has been said that this is a subjective question. However, I've had ceramic coatings applied on 3 of my Porsches over the last 6 years (Panamera, Cayenne, and 991.2) using Gtechniq. Each time the paint correction was completed prior to ceramic coating application. In my opinion, it was completely worth it for the following reasons: 1) The glass/mirror look of the paint; 2) The laborious nature washing and drying the car is greatly reduced; 3) All sets of wheels were coated as well and removing the brake dust is easier; 4) Overall protection for the car's paint.
Also, depending on the installer of the coating can make a difference, so do your homework. For my installer, I connected with him as recommended by our local Ferrari dealer.
Also, depending on the installer of the coating can make a difference, so do your homework. For my installer, I connected with him as recommended by our local Ferrari dealer.
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Not meaning to hijack this thread, but it seems from the comments, the argument for ceramic coating is more compelling with darker colored or metallic paint jobs. Yes/No?