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Guys- cars will only hold value if they are bubble wrapped. Sorry to say it but none of these cars is inherently rare. Once you break 1500 units it is just another car.
If you slap 20 sets of tires on your track beater Gt3 / RS you will not have a "top dollar" car.
Solution: keep one pristine and beat the **** out of the other one.
For "max future value"
If you have one already- decide to bubble it or beat it down.
If you have one coming in, same decision.
Mooty and I both drive our cars a lot. So we are sick in the head. But I will tell you if your car has too many miles or rock chips then the collector type horizon changes drastically.
Martin and I spoke about this also. In order for a car's mileage to not matter it has to be at least 15 years old. How many of you are going to hold onto this car for 25 years?
15 years or 25? Agree that 991.1 GT3 cars are not rare and this will pressure the "collector" status. The rare 997.2 RS is 20 years old and bubble wrapped cars can bring $700k or more.
This is low mileage it my crack 200k?? You must be referring to a 4.0 which is around 500k numbered car. A black 991 GT3 just sold for 156k MSRP outgoing model. Market is subjective now, but people are paying for what they want.
I've owned most of both that Porsche has produced. Here's my take on the continual GT3 vs RS comparison:
From a "value" perspective based on day-one MSRP, Gt3 is the best value for sure (if you start talking about resale and ADM's, it's a different discussion). It's 95% of the performance, 150% of the versatility/utility and lower initial price tag. The practical minded person would buy one of these and be done. That was me several years ago. Why would I have a car that costs more, barely performs better and has obnoxious wing/decals/colors/etc? Then I caught the all-things Porsche bug. I bought so many different 911s from LH to present. And I eventually learned something:
The RS represents Porsche's absolute best drivers 911 at any given point in time. THE BEST, PERIOD. The next gen GT3 will be better than the prior gen RS and the following Gt3 will CRUSH a full gen older RS. But every 3-ish years, Porsche produces a no-compromise best performing 911 it can and it puts the RS badge on it. Some people get to a spot in life where they will not compromise on the things they have a lot of passion for: hence the meaning behind the phrase "RS is RS".
I buy gt3s. I keep RS's. Because of what they represent: The pinnacle of the 911 platform over the course of Porsche's history. At some point I need to sell an RS that I've bought because it will just end up being too many cars one day. That day hasn't come yet.
The 7.2gt3 was FAR superior to 7.1rs, in almost every measure of specs and performance. I'll let you guess which one I still own. If I'm logical I can argue all day long why .2gt3 is BETTER than the .1rs. But for me it's not. Because, as Waxer says, "RS is RS".
The new Gt3 is better than the outgoing RS. No doubt in my mind. But......Porsche held back on it. It represents a compromise. They can make a better car at this point in time. And that car will have "RS" stamped on its rear.
Spot on with one tensy weany modification. New .2 GT3 is'nt "better" but merely just as fast with stickier Cup2's. If that's "better" in someone's book so be it but RS is "better" in many other ways in my book.
And let's stop the blather about the .1 not being Motorsport. It clearly was per PAG themselves. 2015 GT3R. The car just had no factory teams unlike the .2 with the RSR and resultant publicity. There are no factory teams for the GT3R this year either.
.2 GT3 is BETTER. Nope, not subjective. Better as in faster. Better as in cheaper. Better as in better engine.
.2 GT3 pure Motorsport. That's what happens if you are patient. Next gen crushes previous gen!
.2 GT3 has "better" tires.
.2 GT3 revs to 9000 as opposed to 8500. Higher RPMs are the "better" part. To the extent that really matters to most of us which it REALLY does not since most of us are not competing for money and trophies.
One can fairly argue as I do:
RS is better because...well RS.
RS is better because ....well just look at it.
RS is better because it has all RS "specialness" like wider track and hips, side vents, carbon panels, mag roof.... It just oozes specialness.
Don't know the difference between "pure" Motorsport and Motorsport. Perhaps you can enlighten us. I guess if there is a "pure" Motorsport then "pure" would be preferred. ? I guess. But in reality makes 0 reality difference to the cars performance and quailty. RS and R as sound and reliable.
So by your logic .2GT3 is "better" than CGT, '73 RS, 997 4.0RS and others because it throws down a better Ring time?
Seems like your definition of "better" in somewhat myoptic. But...that's OK, its your defiinition of better not mine or others.
This brings into focus the advantage tires play.
Evo track time differences between RS and .2 was 2 TENTHS of a second. Negligble. That's nothing. Driver error. Put new Sport Cup 2's on RS so they have the same sneakers and compare times. My bet is RS is faster since it's spec tires are wider, its track is wider and it has more aero. Tires are the MAJOR factor. Period.
Put 305 Trofeos on my Boss 302LS and I'll cut the delta as to the GT350R SUBSTANTIALLY.
05-04-2017, 03:35 AM
