991.2 GT3 will come with "Touring Package" option
05-20-2017, 03:10 PM
#391
Rennlist Member
remember the R and .2 engine internals are significantly different!!!
05-20-2017, 03:15 PM
#392
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remember the R and .2 engine internals are significantly different!!!
05-20-2017, 04:34 PM
#393
RL Community Team
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Tune not really necessary, nor would it really make any difference. The two cars are light years different in construction and character. I'd have zero interest in a GTS, but would think long and hard about doing the touring version of a GT3 if I had the choice. 50-50.
There was a good write up on Jalopnik this week about the GTS and how dead and clinical it feels. Don't think the experience is anything like driving a GT3, lap times be damned.
There was a good write up on Jalopnik this week about the GTS and how dead and clinical it feels. Don't think the experience is anything like driving a GT3, lap times be damned.
05-20-2017, 05:25 PM
#395
RL Community Team
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I just sold my 17 GTS after two weeks. I completely agree with above. Very fast, very comfortable and absolutely boring car. One thing that really bothered me is that I could not hear the engine. Sport exhaust off you hear nothing but Turbo whoosh. Sport exhaust on you just hear the artificial burbling of the pipes. I actually drove it 40 miles. To drive 997 RS and 911R and then drove GTS 40 miles back. Next day dropped it off at the dealer. I also had a Macan GTS and agree with Jalopnik it is more exciting.
I have a 991R and I would really love a .2 GT3 with touring package.
I have a 991R and I would really love a .2 GT3 with touring package.
My 991.1 is a little more visceral than the .2. The chassis isn't as refined, you have to work the engine more, and it feels less GT like than the .2. I drove them back to back before deciding to buy a .1.
But it's not a GT3. I bought my 911 with the aim of being able to have all 4 of us enjoy it. So while I really preferred a 997, it's not big enough for my wife and two kids to ride in. The 991 is, but feels larger, more aloof and more inert.
I want a GT3 Touring to get some of that tied down, lithe and adjustable feel back. Get more feedback flowing. More old school Porsche DNA. I don't care if it's not a GT3...call it something else. An RS? Whatever. But that's what I want. It's not just the atmo engine I'm after, it's the rest of the experience
05-20-2017, 05:44 PM
#396
Race Director
Basically we all just want a return to NA cars as that's all anyone here is really pining for. Maybe Porsche had no alternative but to go turbo, but it hasn't done them any favors. I think and hope that turbo is just an intermediate step towards a better hybrid, although the eliminating of hybrid for 992 is discouraging in this sense. NA+hybrid, if constructed light enough, is a fantastic driving and power delivery experience as the 918 spyder shows. If only we can make featherweight batteries somehow.
05-20-2017, 06:40 PM
#397
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Firstly I hope the X90 is a thing. Secondly I hope they don't restrict it to manual, I know many people love them but I'm in a committed relationship with PDK. Thirdly I hope it won't be a limited run so I can actually buy one.
05-20-2017, 06:44 PM
#398
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my point was that the .2 engines internals differ significantly from that of the R's ... thus the fact that the R has an LWFW option does not imply that it would
function on the .2's engine (regardless of the existence of AP's warning about this)
function on the .2's engine (regardless of the existence of AP's warning about this)
05-20-2017, 06:52 PM
#399
Basically we all just want a return to NA cars as that's all anyone here is really pining for. Maybe Porsche had no alternative but to go turbo, but it hasn't done them any favors. I think and hope that turbo is just an intermediate step towards a better hybrid, although the eliminating of hybrid for 992 is discouraging in this sense. NA+hybrid, if constructed light enough, is a fantastic driving and power delivery experience as the 918 spyder shows. If only we can make featherweight batteries somehow.
05-20-2017, 07:12 PM
#400
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I'd be one mighitly pissed off R owner if the GT3 came with an R-like aero pkg and a 6MT ... what goes up will come down!
05-20-2017, 07:26 PM
#401
Burning Brakes
Tune not really necessary, nor would it really make any difference. The two cars are light years different in construction and character. I'd have zero interest in a GTS, but would think long and hard about doing the touring version of a GT3 if I had the choice. 50-50.
There was a good write up on Jalopnik this week about the GTS and how dead and clinical it feels. Don't think the experience is anything like driving a GT3, lap times be damned.
There was a good write up on Jalopnik this week about the GTS and how dead and clinical it feels. Don't think the experience is anything like driving a GT3, lap times be damned.
05-20-2017, 07:38 PM
#402
Rennlist Member
So you dont think that PAG marketing will retain the fundamental difference (and value) between the R (apart from the limited availability etc) and the .2 GT3?
I'd be one mighitly pissed off R owner if the GT3 came with an R-like aero pkg and a 6MT ... what goes up will come down!
I'd be one mighitly pissed off R owner if the GT3 came with an R-like aero pkg and a 6MT ... what goes up will come down!
05-20-2017, 07:50 PM
#403
So the 991.2 GT3 will be available in a sport model and a luxury model. Is that similar to a Honda Accord in a SE sport edition and an LX luxury edition? Will the 991.1 then be the last unadulterated GT3 Porsche built ? Doesn't mean I don't want a .2, just making myself feel better about the '16 .1 I just bought. Moderators please don't ban me.
05-21-2017, 01:17 PM
#405
Basically we all just want a return to NA cars as that's all anyone here is really pining for. Maybe Porsche had no alternative but to go turbo, but it hasn't done them any favors. I think and hope that turbo is just an intermediate step towards a better hybrid, although the eliminating of hybrid for 992 is discouraging in this sense. NA+hybrid, if constructed light enough, is a fantastic driving and power delivery experience as the 918 spyder shows. If only we can make featherweight batteries somehow.
Adding the electric power to cope help drive the car? That would be perfect.