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Old 05-01-2017, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RennOracle
You can't order clubsport with it, because Porsche doesn't "want" Touring cars looking bad on track. This will be an R without LWFW and carbon fenders.

There are photos of the car here ( https://www.autogespot.pt/porsche-99...kii/2017/04/29 ), it's basically a spoiler remover option, probably an option or two, but I don't think it will have 4 seats.
Thanks for the additional photos.

Whilst I can see that there is a decent chance it wont have back seats, I am still hoping it will.
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Originally Posted by Ernesto Schmitt
The interesting point is... that wing on the GT3 in actual fact provides no difference in performance for the car. Watch the video below for a very interesting analysis. So removing the wing won't make the car any less performant in real life. The wing, same as the roll cage, are really just there for show rather than substance...

https://youtu.be/Izgr8nNuZqw
Haha... Do you really get your information and make your conclusions in life from a guy on youtube? Unbelievable.
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Touring package = comfort seats
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
Touring package = comfort seats
Confusing statement?
Old 05-01-2017, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
Touring package = SOFA seats
Fixed it for you...
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The clubsport in germany means buckets and roll bar. The touring means sofa/ comfort seats.

Same for the last 20 years.
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
The clubsport in germany means buckets and roll bar. The touring means sofa/ comfort seats.

Same for the last 20 years.
What is this thing then?

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new 991.2 sport classic?
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Originally Posted by Bardman
What is this thing then?

The .2R?
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The above pictures and the pictures under https://www.autogespot.pt/porsche-99...kii/2017/04/29 show the coming Touring Paket, which be offered by Porsche later this year for the GT3. Just that simple ....
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There is no reason to have a touring package with bucket seats. Hell that the biggest discomfort of the entire car. At least IMO.
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I'd like a rear seat touring package so I can scare three passengers at a time instead of just one.
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Originally Posted by gago1101
Haha... Do you really get your information and make your conclusions in life from a guy on youtube? Unbelievable.
I graduated top of my class in engineering at Cambridge University - what's your qualification buddy?

The video I posted is from a professional aerodynamicist who makes his living designing racing car aero. The engineering is entirely non-debatable: wings make the square root of *zero* difference to the real-world driving dynamics of road cars like the GT3. Unless your name is Max Verstappen and you're taking every corner at the limit at 100mph and want to push this to 100.5mph, they're completely meaningless.
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Originally Posted by Ernesto Schmitt
The video I posted is from a professional aerodynamicist who makes his living designing racing car aero. The engineering is entirely non-debatable: wings make the square root of *zero* difference to the real-world driving dynamics of road cars like the GT3. Unless your name is Max Verstappen and you're taking every corner at the limit at 100mph and want to push this to 100.5mph, they're completely meaningless.
The video seem reliable to me. However, in the case of the GT3, the wing really is Big and the Speeds really are High (not unusual to exceed 300kph on Autobahn and Norsdschliefe). So, in these circumstances (which few cars experience), the wing does add value (being able to corner a few mph faster is a big deal in racing and lapping)...
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Originally Posted by Ernesto Schmitt
I graduated top of my class in engineering at Cambridge University - what's your qualification buddy?

The video I posted is from a professional aerodynamicist who makes his living designing racing car aero. The engineering is entirely non-debatable: wings make the square root of *zero* difference to the real-world driving dynamics of road cars like the GT3. Unless your name is Max Verstappen and you're taking every corner at the limit at 100mph and want to push this to 100.5mph, they're completely meaningless.
Agree with this. Also, wings on street cars mainly help mitigate lift - especially on 911's, Beetles and other similarly shaped cars like the Audi TT. That said, the impact is not perceptible in real world street driving, excluding the autobahn of course.


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