991.2 GTS, GT3, GT2, GT3 RS, Mission E - Update
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The new generation of tires alone with be worth at least 3 seconds (and possibly much more). I think the RS's aero causes too much drag on some of the fast sections of the Nordschliefe - needs active aero with a low drag mode for Dottinger Hohe, etc. For example, the 911R goes 200mph and the RS goes 193 mph with same engine and without the RS's ram-air side intakes.
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Try comparing to 991.1 GT3 which ran a 7:25 with 25hp less, less torque, worse tires, aero, and suspension than 991.2 GT3...
The new generation of tires alone with be worth at least 3 seconds (and possibly much more). I think the RS's aero causes too much drag on some of the fast sections of the Nordschliefe - needs active aero with a low drag mode for Dottinger Hohe, etc. For example, the 911R goes 200mph and the RS goes 193 mph with same engine and without the RS's ram-air side intakes.
The new generation of tires alone with be worth at least 3 seconds (and possibly much more). I think the RS's aero causes too much drag on some of the fast sections of the Nordschliefe - needs active aero with a low drag mode for Dottinger Hohe, etc. For example, the 911R goes 200mph and the RS goes 193 mph with same engine and without the RS's ram-air side intakes.
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Whats the new tire that will be on the 991.2 GT3? is this something we can replace our 991.1 Tires with?
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you know, if I could start over and choose another career, it would be one of those guys testing new Porsches. Man, what a gig! my life must have taken a wrong turn somewhere?
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I don't see Porsche building a plant in the US, nor should they have to in order sell cars here without tariff. To compete with Porsche, US car makers need to actually make cars which can compete. The 35% tariff would be passed on to us consumers and simply amount to a large added tax on those who want these cars and can afford them.
Certainly a portion of the tariffs and taxes are "passed on", but only to a subset of the original consumer base that is willing to pay the higher price. Both consumers and producers lose, as the tax erodes some potential transactions.
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It is a fallacy to assert that tariffs and taxes are "passed on" to consumers, as that implicitly assumes that the demand curve is vertical (i.e., perfectly inelastic), meaning that consumers view the product as a necessity and they are not sensitive to price fluctuation. Obviously that is not the case for a 911 GT3.
Certainly a portion of the tariffs and taxes are "passed on", but only to a subset of the original consumer base that is willing to pay the higher price. Both consumers and producers lose, as the tax erodes some potential transactions.
Certainly a portion of the tariffs and taxes are "passed on", but only to a subset of the original consumer base that is willing to pay the higher price. Both consumers and producers lose, as the tax erodes some potential transactions.
Could it be that Germans are successful at selling cars around the world because they know how to make good cars and deserve their success? Does any car made in America truly rival Porsche in terms of design, performance, proven trackworthiness, durability, etc.?
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Was thinking about this ram-air effect the other day. How much value (h.p.) does the ram-air produce? Since the new .2 gt3 will definitely not have this and with the same 4.0 engine in it, there alone will keep the h.p. numbers below the 4.0 .1 RS.
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Try comparing to 991.1 GT3 which ran a 7:25 with 25hp less, less torque, worse tires, aero, and suspension than 991.2 GT3...
The new generation of tires alone with be worth at least 3 seconds (and possibly much more). I think the RS's aero causes too much drag on some of the fast sections of the Nordschliefe - needs active aero with a low drag mode for Dottinger Hohe, etc. For example, the 911R goes 200mph and the RS goes 193 mph with same engine and without the RS's ram-air side intakes.
The new generation of tires alone with be worth at least 3 seconds (and possibly much more). I think the RS's aero causes too much drag on some of the fast sections of the Nordschliefe - needs active aero with a low drag mode for Dottinger Hohe, etc. For example, the 911R goes 200mph and the RS goes 193 mph with same engine and without the RS's ram-air side intakes.
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The 991.2 GT3 will have some of this ram-air effect, as it has intake scoops below the rear window that would have somewhat increased the air pressure at high speeds.
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The new AMG GT R that ran 7:10.x supposedly had a new sticky version of Cup2 and I would hope for and expect a similar compound for the GT3. I have no reason to expect a change in tire sizes (which would mean 991.1 owners could use the tire also), but have no info on that.
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