991.2 GTS, GT3, GT2, GT3 RS, Mission E - Update
01-10-2017 | 04:49 AM
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No where near that many in U.S. Around 30 or so that I was able to quickly count. 100 across the entire European continent is not alot either. Where did you get your figures. I did see about 70 RS's in Germany for sale but a huge chunk was older 997 RS's.
With the crazy numbers "some" are just spouting out I would expect alot more to be sitting on U.S. dealer lots since U.S. is by far the largest market. Relatively few for sale here.
With the crazy numbers "some" are just spouting out I would expect alot more to be sitting on U.S. dealer lots since U.S. is by far the largest market. Relatively few for sale here.
source: mobile.de
01-10-2017 | 04:55 AM
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Not the point. I don't NEED to show production numbers. I don't think anyone has actually verified production numbers. All I've see is people making educated speculations, and for some reason you are always at the low end of this speculation. I think I recall reading one of your posts where you stated WW production was 1,500 units. That has since been redacted.
You also are always at the high end of the speculation in terms of current and future 991.1 RS value.
So I, and others, will continue to multiply your numbers by 50%.
You also are always at the high end of the speculation in terms of current and future 991.1 RS value.
So I, and others, will continue to multiply your numbers by 50%.
and yes there will be no official RS numbers by porsche EVER, they dont disclose those numbers but they do talk to analyst in the financial industry and if you happen to work there you might get lucky
01-10-2017 | 04:59 AM
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Not the point. When you can show me production numbers from PAG then we can talk. We have people coming on here and touting production numbers are out. Where are these production numbers if they are "out". Enlighten us. Until then I multiply your numbers by 50% which are poppy ****.
There is certainly far from a flood of GT3RS's on the market here and prices seem to be holding strong if not even inching up now that production is over.
Yeah, please post up these production numbers. As they say put up or .....
There is certainly far from a flood of GT3RS's on the market here and prices seem to be holding strong if not even inching up now that production is over.
Yeah, please post up these production numbers. As they say put up or .....
but if you are happier with 3500-4000 then thats fine too, it doesnt really matter in the great scheme of things
01-10-2017 | 12:17 PM
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Seranad, posting incorrect information doesn't help anyone. Didn't you say 9000 cars told to you by your friend at the factory? Now you say 5000 to 8000 but you can't say exactly. I called the psychic hotline and they agree.
From the vins I have there are 1310 RS's built for the US. It sounds low to me but no one has shown me a vin outside the range I'm tracking. (187064-187310, 192061-193339)
From the vins I have there are 1310 RS's built for the US. It sounds low to me but no one has shown me a vin outside the range I'm tracking. (187064-187310, 192061-193339)
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01-10-2017 | 12:25 PM
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Seranad, posting incorrect information doesn't help anyone. Didn't you say 9000 cars told to you by your friend at the factory? Now you say 5000 to 8000 but you can't say exactly. I called the psychic hotline and they agree.
From the vins I have there are 1310 RS's built for the US. It sounds low to me but no one has shown me a vin outside the range I'm tracking. (187064-187310, 192061-192339)
From the vins I have there are 1310 RS's built for the US. It sounds low to me but no one has shown me a vin outside the range I'm tracking. (187064-187310, 192061-192339)
i said 8000 before and i revise that sligthly down, thats all
and i apologize for giving you the 8000 estimate from a friend at the beginning of December. now at year end it was less than that
i really dont doubt your vins tracking, kudos to you for doing that. and to be honest i am not sure how to reconsile
01-10-2017 | 12:51 PM
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Seranad, posting incorrect information doesn't help anyone. Didn't you say 9000 cars told to you by your friend at the factory? Now you say 5000 to 8000 but you can't say exactly. I called the psychic hotline and they agree.
From the vins I have there are 1310 RS's built for the US. It sounds low to me but no one has shown me a vin outside the range I'm tracking. (187064-187310, 192061-192339)
From the vins I have there are 1310 RS's built for the US. It sounds low to me but no one has shown me a vin outside the range I'm tracking. (187064-187310, 192061-192339)
246 --> 187064-187310
278 --> 192061-192339
How do you get to 1310?
thanks for keeping track!
01-10-2017 | 01:22 PM
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01-10-2017 | 01:30 PM
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01-10-2017 | 02:46 PM
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As time goes on it seems less likely there will be a .2 GT3RS.
That means the GT3 doesn't have to leave room for a bigger brother, and 4.0L it will be.
To get to 500HP from a 3.8L, it will need to do over 130HP per litre, there is currently exactly 2 engines that tops that, both are V8 with smaller pistons.
Some here keep thinking too much into the 'protecting' the R customers, meaning they can't quite possibly use 4.0L manual in the GT3 like in the R.
Rubbish. No R owner will even cared if the GT3 will basically have the same drive train. Well perhaps the few flippers might, but the majority are collectors and the limitation badge will be enough.
Hell, a McLaren P1 is basically a souped up 12C, yet none of the P1 buyers mind.
That means the GT3 doesn't have to leave room for a bigger brother, and 4.0L it will be.
To get to 500HP from a 3.8L, it will need to do over 130HP per litre, there is currently exactly 2 engines that tops that, both are V8 with smaller pistons.
Some here keep thinking too much into the 'protecting' the R customers, meaning they can't quite possibly use 4.0L manual in the GT3 like in the R.
Rubbish. No R owner will even cared if the GT3 will basically have the same drive train. Well perhaps the few flippers might, but the majority are collectors and the limitation badge will be enough.
Hell, a McLaren P1 is basically a souped up 12C, yet none of the P1 buyers mind.