Originally Posted by bronson7

So if, and I say IF the .2 gt3 comes out with the 3.8 and a bit more hp/torque, will people still line up to get it?

Originally Posted by bronson7

So if, and I say IF the .2 gt3 comes out with the 3.8 and a bit more hp/torque, will people still line up to get it?

Originally Posted by SToronto

There is such opportunity out there to offer a better sales/service experience. A great experience is rare these days. I think about myself with most purchases, I'm well researched before I go in somewhere and buy, don't need a salesperson in the traditional retail sense. More and more people are like this. I was reading a 2013 article yesterday on something else but the e below was in there, bet these numbers are higher now. "New vehicles are increasingly sophisticated, requiring more staff training. And customers are smarter than ever, too. J.D. Power and Associates says that 61 per cent of new vehicle shoppers know exactly which vehicle they want long before setting foot in a dealership. Ninety per cent of those drove away with that vehicle. “Put another way, of the 1.7 million vehicles sold in Canada last year, nearly one million of them weren’t ‘sold’ at all, but rather ordered and delivered,” J.D. Power notes. The successful dealer, then, needs sales consultants skilled at walking the customer through an efficient and friendly purchase."

Originally Posted by GrantG

I would be disappointed if no 4.0L

And it is highly unlikely that the car will make much more power (and especially unlikely to make much more torque) if it continues as an NA 3.8L...

Originally Posted by mass27

+1. Also, didn't they have enough issues with the current 3.8? If anything, it would produce less HP if the 3.8 was continued to be used.

Originally Posted by Bardman

So for the base cars, they went from NA to turbo engines - a completely new engine design. So unless we are reaching theoretical limits on the 3.8 engine size, who is to say they can't squeeze a lot more out of a 3.8 platform?

Originally Posted by mass27

You are totally right! Just have to multiply by 2.

Nevermind, I just read on Wikipedia that there were only 600 RS produced. Shhh, it's a secret so don't tell anyone. All 991.1 RS will increase in FMV 25% each week until it reaches its maximum of $2M. You should be able to take this above data to your bank and get a LOC on your RS.

Originally Posted by Guest89

It's pretty obvious that we have arrived at the limits - theoretical or otherwise - for naturally aspirated engines that are tractable, streetable, and covered under warranty for tens of thousands of miles.

Originally Posted by Bardman

If they get the same efficiency as Ferrari were able to get from the 458 speciale engine (based on technology from 4 years ago), then they should be able get 505hp from the 3.8.

Originally Posted by rosenbergendo

495 3.8 is possible.

Originally Posted by Chris3963

Just over 100 RS for sales across Europe and the Uk at the moment. All above MSRP. Some significantly. Especially the PTS cars - 1 x Acid Green, 1x Birch Green and 2 x Riviera Blue.

Originally Posted by rosenbergendo

495 3.8 is possible.

Originally Posted by GrantG

Remember that the 458 is a 4.5L V8, so each of its cylinders is only 562cc displacement where a 3.8L Flat-6 has 633cc cylinders. It is much more difficult to spin 633cc cylinders (with its heavier pistons and higher piston speeds) to 9,000 rpm (necessary to rev high for the big power numbers) than it is to rev 562cc cylinders that high (much more mechanically stressful).