991.2 GTS, GT3, GT2, GT3 RS, Mission E - Update
03-07-2017, 05:16 PM
#1906
you can see the back-up camera on the 3D mode of the configurator but not on the 2D.
so safe to say no more radio delete; ever. bastards!
so safe to say no more radio delete; ever. bastards!
03-07-2017, 05:29 PM
#1907
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Aside from US Fed mandated rear camera (which requires PCM to work), I see that Satellite Radio is standard now. Does this mean we have to have the shark fin antenna?
03-07-2017, 07:28 PM
#1908
Yo! Thats the plan. Dude I know you're a music head like me. Check the score on the microsite page!!! I gotta find that music. Hopefully its not just a Porsche creation.
http://www.porsche.com/microsite/911....aspx#exterior
http://www.porsche.com/microsite/911....aspx#exterior
I'm guessing the audio is tailored for this site experience. We should be able to get to the bottom of it in short order.
03-07-2017, 10:30 PM
#1909
Gotta love this quote from AP who addresses the whole BS some people on this forum bring up routinely about Porsche worrying about upsetting past customers:
From Pistonheads, this is AP: "And this is a message I want to get across too. I got letters from R owners saying 'oh, I heard there is going to be a manual version of the gen two, now I have the R, I have to protect my investment'. And I say we are a company that produces cars, we live because we sell cars and we have to make a profit on the cars to go on. We are not a hedge fund so we cannot offer cars with a built-in promise to keep value for a small amount of chosen people, this is wouldn't fair. I mean the R will stand on its pedestal for ever, as with the RS 4.0 - with the RS 4.0 it didn't hurt that there was a 991 GT3, it didn't hurt that there was an RS, it didn't hurt that there was an R with a manual gearbox. RS 4.0 values are sky high, it is the same with the R, it is not challenged by that car but if we discover a niche or a want for a driver's car why shouldn't we do it, we are a motor company."
From Pistonheads, this is AP: "And this is a message I want to get across too. I got letters from R owners saying 'oh, I heard there is going to be a manual version of the gen two, now I have the R, I have to protect my investment'. And I say we are a company that produces cars, we live because we sell cars and we have to make a profit on the cars to go on. We are not a hedge fund so we cannot offer cars with a built-in promise to keep value for a small amount of chosen people, this is wouldn't fair. I mean the R will stand on its pedestal for ever, as with the RS 4.0 - with the RS 4.0 it didn't hurt that there was a 991 GT3, it didn't hurt that there was an RS, it didn't hurt that there was an R with a manual gearbox. RS 4.0 values are sky high, it is the same with the R, it is not challenged by that car but if we discover a niche or a want for a driver's car why shouldn't we do it, we are a motor company."
Where it says RS 4.0, it means the 997 RS?
03-08-2017, 05:02 PM
#1911
That would be interesting and unnecessary for Porsche to put a 4.0L engine in a GT4RS. The GT4 got a weakened version of the 3.8L 991.1 C2S engine. Porsche could just put the 3.8L engine from the 991.1 GTS, but at the full power of that engine, and a GT4RS would still be in crazy demand
03-08-2017, 05:12 PM
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Was just talking to a track buddy today from where I used to live, who runs a GT4. I'm happy the GT4 will be getting an upgrade for him, but the Porsche hierachy is clear-----------
911 based cars >>>> cayman based cars.
A stock GT4, even in RS guise, will not be faster than a stock GT3 of the same generation.
Last edited by Drifting; 03-08-2017 at 05:36 PM.
03-08-2017, 05:30 PM
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03-08-2017, 05:56 PM
#1916
Interesting if that is the case. There is a certain appeal to being able to take the kids for a ride in the GT3 with the family. At least we won't have to address the "can I retrofit rear seats?" threads.
I still wouldn't trade my first allocation slot for the .2 RS for rear seats, though. My daughter is just going to have to learn that life's not always fair.
I still wouldn't trade my first allocation slot for the .2 RS for rear seats, though. My daughter is just going to have to learn that life's not always fair.
03-08-2017, 08:12 PM
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03-08-2017, 08:26 PM
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It doesn't make sense to make a touring wingless variant of a GT3 that includes rear seats, because then it's just a NA 911 carrera as compared to basically making a 911R for Porsche enthusiasts that aren't 918 level VIPs....which does makes sense.
03-08-2017, 08:46 PM
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And I would expect GT4 RS to be a homologation special that is either limited to VIP customers, very expensive, or both...
03-08-2017, 09:14 PM
#1920
With firestorm that the 911R created with the faithful - cant't imagine Porsche AG will repeat that mistake by limiting the GT4RS.