My GT3 engine just blew up
11-20-2016, 06:15 PM
#121
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Originally Posted by IvanBurns
Sorry to hear of your catastrophe, Rich. But hey, thanks for bringing some excitement to this forum - it's been getting a bit routine and repetitive recently!
I agree with Waxer's assessment above - that insurance is not applicable (no accident or collision) but that Porsche will make things right. Porsche will be eager to get the engine back so that they can break it down to see what went wrong. Porsche will take care of you, but how and how soon are open questions. We'll be following your results.
I'm the guy that let you drive my GT3 RS at Road Atlanta back in October. I very much want to see you back in the saddle soon because there's a lot that I can learn from you both as a driver and as a car setup guru!
If Chin's schedule for 2017 is similar to this year's schedule, I'll probably return to Road Atlanta and VIR in late February/early March. If you don't have a replacement GT3 by then, I'd be glad to get you some more time in my RS at one or both tracks.
Good luck!
I agree with Waxer's assessment above - that insurance is not applicable (no accident or collision) but that Porsche will make things right. Porsche will be eager to get the engine back so that they can break it down to see what went wrong. Porsche will take care of you, but how and how soon are open questions. We'll be following your results.
I'm the guy that let you drive my GT3 RS at Road Atlanta back in October. I very much want to see you back in the saddle soon because there's a lot that I can learn from you both as a driver and as a car setup guru!
If Chin's schedule for 2017 is similar to this year's schedule, I'll probably return to Road Atlanta and VIR in late February/early March. If you don't have a replacement GT3 by then, I'd be glad to get you some more time in my RS at one or both tracks.
Good luck!
11-20-2016, 06:20 PM
#122
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IvanBurns - If Chin's schedule for 2017 is similar to this year's schedule, I'll probably return to Road Atlanta and VIR in late February/early March. If you don't have a replacement GT3 by then, I'd be glad to get you some more time in my RS at one or both tracks.
11-20-2016, 06:31 PM
#123
Racer
Originally Posted by rm21
I was running Trofeos although they may look like slicks after being baked in the fire!
I hope you'll get a fast and amicable resolution. Keep us posted.
11-20-2016, 07:31 PM
#124
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Rich - would have been more appropriate if this happened at one of the smokies track day. Get it? Smoky?
Too soon?
Glad you are well, and taking it in stride as I'd expect you would. It'll work out just right for you.
Too soon?
Glad you are well, and taking it in stride as I'd expect you would. It'll work out just right for you.
11-21-2016, 03:17 PM
#127
Sorry to hear about your experience. Seems like it would be a pretty gut wrenching one to watch your car go up in flames like that. Glad nobody got injured, and hopefully an eye opening lesson on the importance of why fire safety should never be overlooked, even in street cars!
In regards to the engine failure, I wish you all the best in resolving this. I'm sure PCNA will want the car back to determine the root cause of the failure.
In regards to the engine failure, I wish you all the best in resolving this. I'm sure PCNA will want the car back to determine the root cause of the failure.
11-21-2016, 03:25 PM
#128
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Richard - Ive only just started catching up on the RL threads having spend the last week at the track in the GT3 (broke my personal bests on all tracks, car is running very well and was rock solid reliable - just on the sweet spot and loving it like you were before this incident).
Very sorry to hear what has happened. It certainly looks like it could be a rod failure in the first instance. This would have put the piston through the block and oil on the headers. I have heard of one or maybe two GT3/RS this has happened to since the recall. Usually it happens much earlier - your car has been tracked more than almost any car I know and its been tracked hard as well so hopefully its not a sign of something that might become more apparent with age.
All the best in dealing with PAG and please let us know of the outcome. Take care.
Very sorry to hear what has happened. It certainly looks like it could be a rod failure in the first instance. This would have put the piston through the block and oil on the headers. I have heard of one or maybe two GT3/RS this has happened to since the recall. Usually it happens much earlier - your car has been tracked more than almost any car I know and its been tracked hard as well so hopefully its not a sign of something that might become more apparent with age.
All the best in dealing with PAG and please let us know of the outcome. Take care.
11-21-2016, 03:28 PM
#130
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My 2015 threw a rod back in May of 2016 ('F' motor), Porsche covered the engine replacement (new 'G' motor), also CPO'd the car for an additional 2 years/100,000, plus cash. When I talked to PCNA and voiced my concerns about the ambiguity of the Porsche User's manual concerning warranty coverage while at the track. I was reassured that the warranty covers DE events... that Porsche expects the owners would be driving their cars at such events.
When my engine blew, it threw a rod through the "top" of the motor. When it occurred I had some smoke coming out of the back, plus every code in the book flashing, then the engine shut down. I think in my case since the rod went up instead of down, the engine did not catch fire. Only a small amount of oil hit the hot exhaust. I believe if the rod had gone the other way, it would have dumped a lot of oil on the exhaust and probably would have caught fire.
When my engine blew, it threw a rod through the "top" of the motor. When it occurred I had some smoke coming out of the back, plus every code in the book flashing, then the engine shut down. I think in my case since the rod went up instead of down, the engine did not catch fire. Only a small amount of oil hit the hot exhaust. I believe if the rod had gone the other way, it would have dumped a lot of oil on the exhaust and probably would have caught fire.
11-21-2016, 07:23 PM
#132
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My 2015 threw a rod back in May of 2016 ('F' motor), Porsche covered the engine replacement (new 'G' motor), also CPO'd the car for an additional 2 years/100,000, plus cash. When I talked to PCNA and voiced my concerns about the ambiguity of the Porsche User's manual concerning warranty coverage while at the track. I was reassured that the warranty covers DE events... that Porsche expects the owners would be driving their cars at such events
You have smoothed my fur a bit.
11-21-2016, 08:22 PM
#133
Can Porsche determine though computer data if the break in procedures were followed to the manual (<4200 RPMs for 2000 miles)? This car has a roll cage, which was not available in the US. Does the possibility exist that Porsche will say this was an improperly converted racing car and not a weekend DE car?
11-21-2016, 08:40 PM
#134
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Rich, I'm sorry to hear about what happened. I feel that PAG will make it right.
Still a bit concerning and the main reason I haven't done any mods to my GT3 other than track alignment and brakes.
Still a bit concerning and the main reason I haven't done any mods to my GT3 other than track alignment and brakes.
11-21-2016, 08:55 PM
#135
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bottom line is YOU ARE OK !! metal is replaceable. Would you care to share which insurance company you are with. As an independent insurance agency owner, even if the policy excludes coverage for track events including DE's, the comprehensive still could be applicable depending on the policy language.
I still agree with the other posts that PCNA will ultimately step up to the plate & make you whole.
I still agree with the other posts that PCNA will ultimately step up to the plate & make you whole.