GT3.2 to have a 6spd? and a 4.0?
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I sure hope Porsche cares about resale. To say they don't is ridiculous to me. One of the main reasons Porsche is where it is right now is because of resale value. That doesn't mean they are not going to incrementally improve/advance their cars. The dealers care even more about resale and they will definitely not stand by while that is damaged. Look at Mclaren. If you come out with a significantly better car every year the old ones are difficult to sell without taking a huge hit. Also, why has Porsche spent so many years protecting the 911 from the Cayman and why do they only add 10 or 15 hp. They have to leave room for the future.
I don't think the next GT3 will be turbo, but I'm very curious to see how they move forward.
I don't think the next GT3 will be turbo, but I'm very curious to see how they move forward.
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Porsche is where it is now because of Cayenne, Panamera and Macan. Check the resale values of these cars.
Protecting the 911 from Cayman was always about the sales of new cars. Never about resale values of what already accounted to profit.
Next GT3 will have the same Nordschleife time as this generation RS has, maybe 1-2 sec better. It's a numbers game. Latest should be greatest.
VAG doesn't play in McLaren league. It plays in BMW and Daimler league. Check the resale values of Ms and AMGs. Check if sales of new Ms and AMGs are hurt by the resale values of 5-10 yo cars.
Protecting the 911 from Cayman was always about the sales of new cars. Never about resale values of what already accounted to profit.
Next GT3 will have the same Nordschleife time as this generation RS has, maybe 1-2 sec better. It's a numbers game. Latest should be greatest.
VAG doesn't play in McLaren league. It plays in BMW and Daimler league. Check the resale values of Ms and AMGs. Check if sales of new Ms and AMGs are hurt by the resale values of 5-10 yo cars.
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Porsche is where it is now because of Cayenne, Panamera and Macan. Check the resale values of these cars.
Protecting the 911 from Cayman was always about the sales of new cars. Never about resale values of what already accounted to profit.
Next GT3 will have the same Nordschleife time as this generation RS has, maybe 1-2 sec better. It's a numbers game. Latest should be greatest.
Protecting the 911 from Cayman was always about the sales of new cars. Never about resale values of what already accounted to profit.
Next GT3 will have the same Nordschleife time as this generation RS has, maybe 1-2 sec better. It's a numbers game. Latest should be greatest.
Macan residuals look to be very good and the reason their other models aren't as high is not because Porsche is building a significantly improved/different one every six months, it's the general market trend for these types of vehicles. That was the point I was trying to make.
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It's all about business, sales and market capitalisation. None of these is about caring about resale value of what's already sold once. Resale values do not contribute to balance sheets.
5 yo Macan will cost a bit less than 5 yo Cayenne. No way Macan will keep it's value any better than Cayenne, once it's not "latest" any more.
5 yo Macan will cost a bit less than 5 yo Cayenne. No way Macan will keep it's value any better than Cayenne, once it's not "latest" any more.
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Porsche is where it is now because of Cayenne, Panamera and Macan. Check the resale values of these cars.
Protecting the 911 from Cayman was always about the sales of new cars. Never about resale values of what already accounted to profit.
Next GT3 will have the same Nordschleife time as this generation RS has, maybe 1-2 sec better. It's a numbers game. Latest should be greatest.
VAG doesn't play in McLaren league. It plays in BMW and Daimler league. Check the resale values of Ms and AMGs. Check if sales of new Ms and AMGs are hurt by the resale values of 5-10 yo cars.
Protecting the 911 from Cayman was always about the sales of new cars. Never about resale values of what already accounted to profit.
Next GT3 will have the same Nordschleife time as this generation RS has, maybe 1-2 sec better. It's a numbers game. Latest should be greatest.
VAG doesn't play in McLaren league. It plays in BMW and Daimler league. Check the resale values of Ms and AMGs. Check if sales of new Ms and AMGs are hurt by the resale values of 5-10 yo cars.
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I sure hope Porsche cares about resale. To say they don't is ridiculous to me. One of the main reasons Porsche is where it is right now is because of resale value. That doesn't mean they are not going to incrementally improve/advance their cars. The dealers care even more about resale and they will definitely not stand by while that is damaged. Look at Mclaren. If you come out with a significantly better car every year the old ones are difficult to sell without taking a huge hit. Also, why has Porsche spent so many years protecting the 911 from the Cayman and why do they only add 10 or 15 hp. They have to leave room for the future.
I don't think the next GT3 will be turbo, but I'm very curious to see how they move forward.
I don't think the next GT3 will be turbo, but I'm very curious to see how they move forward.
What keeps them afloat now is the Cayenne and Macan and Panamera sales. Resale of those cars are not comparable to the 911 resale percentages.
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Resale values were not even close to what they are today back in December 2013. After the PDK only GT3 announcement everything shot up, air cooled, GT cars, even regular 911 manual cars. Porsche was not managing resale by any means. They almost went backrupt and introduced the Boxter.
What keeps them afloat now is the Cayenne and Macan and Panamera sales. Resale of those cars are not comparable to the 911 resale percentages.
What keeps them afloat now is the Cayenne and Macan and Panamera sales. Resale of those cars are not comparable to the 911 resale percentages.
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However there are lots of people like me would never buy either car because of the catastrophic depreciation of those two brands.
I'll stick with Porsche GT cars thank you very much.
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I don't disagree. I'm not saying they actively manage resale values either, or have significant impact on the global economy. I'm saying I think they fully consider past and present cars when developing future cars and this relates to the GT3.2 when they are still building R's and RS's.
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I don't disagree. I'm not saying they actively manage resale values either, or have significant impact on the global economy. I'm saying I think they fully consider past and present cars when developing future cars and this relates to the GT3.2 when they are still building R's and RS's.
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I sure hope Porsche cares about resale. To say they don't is ridiculous to me. One of the main reasons Porsche is where it is right now is because of resale value. That doesn't mean they are not going to incrementally improve/advance their cars. The dealers care even more about resale and they will definitely not stand by while that is damaged. Look at Mclaren. If you come out with a significantly better car every year the old ones are difficult to sell without taking a huge hit. Also, why has Porsche spent so many years protecting the 911 from the Cayman and why do they only add 10 or 15 hp. They have to leave room for the future.
I don't think the next GT3 will be turbo, but I'm very curious to see how they move forward.
I don't think the next GT3 will be turbo, but I'm very curious to see how they move forward.
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Well if the 2017 GT3 is manual, NA, 4.0, I'm going to buy one and CXX some green stripes, take a sawsall to the wing, and have a custom door sill that says "992 of 991".
Oh, and PTS.
Oh, and PTS.