Laguna_Dude

if 991.2 3/RS is manual and 4.0L.... hell; if it's just manual... porsche better shut up and take my money!!

Spyerx

If true and announced by year end I'm definitely winning my steak dinner bet with usctrojan.

mooty

GT4 is 100k car
GT3.1 is 150k car
GT3.2 likely a 165k car
dumping GT4 at 85000 to buy a GT3.2 at 165k (now that's just msrp, not inc premium).....

i am not that sure how many can step up to the plate with money

R.Deacon

I doubt , less than ankle deep,
And not many 4 guys Will spend double plus higher operating cost

mooty

^ yes

LSs1Power

I dont think there will be a .2 GT3RS. Only GT3 and GT2RS.

Metzeger

Perhaps the GT3RS.2 is only turbo! gt2 rs or GT3 RS...I think the GT3.2 keep the 3.8 with some mods intake etc... 490hp. I have some doubt for the 4.0!!!

karimgt3

+1 for 3.8L staying

LSs1Power

Going by 997 GT3 history, Porsche did upgrade displacement from 3.6 to 3.8 between 997.1 and 997.2.

I hope this is the same case with 991.2.

Also giving that Porsche had paid alot of money to change the 991.1 3.8 engines even after the 2014 model stop sale makes financial sense to stick a more robust 4.0 engine in there. It will actually cost them less on the long run especially with Porsche extended warranty that could reach 10 years.

Macca

^^^ +991

There is no news in this article, just some possible affirmation...

I had a big "Come to Jesus" moment with myself today on whether I should put my name down for a 991.2 GT3 as a slot is available at MSRP if i want it...

BUT. And here's the thing. If I choose PDK in my market then I will condemn myself to depreciation, because lets be honest there is a today a strong "current" running through the market to "save the MT", rightly or wrongly (that's not a debate I wish to enter into here). Just follow me for a bit...

So I'm sitting here looking at what i have. A G engine 991.1 GT3 with DSC module, about to have a DMS race header installed, and some RT RE10 pads. Otherwise stock including geo/tyres & wheels. I use the car primarily on the track but tour most race tracks in the country annually with some porsche buddies so it also sees a fair bit of mileage two up with my wife and a lot so luggage...

So Im sitting here looking at the GT4 faced 991.2 GT3 that otherwise is almost identical to my GT3. I dont like the GT3 looking more like a GT4 by the way LOL!

Im saying to myself, if they throw a 4.0L engine in this car and shave off 40kg from the weight with the MT option (30Kg gearbox, plus 5K mechanical diff, but ill assume it will have some weight saving measures somewhere to the tune of 5kg)....what do i end up with?

The only answer I can find is a large Cayman GT4 with 70K USD more on the price?!!?

In all seriousness, Ive run against most gear at the track, Im currently the quickest in our group but there isnt more than 1s per 1min per lap between me and the second quickest guy (a very good driver in a GT4 with a number of suspension tweaks to aid in tyre longevity and grip).

If you look at the recently leaked dutch cad drawings of the new 991.2 GT3 what do you see?. I see a large GT4. Now if you throw in the MT barring the 8600 rpm engine (it wont be 8800 on the GT3 with the 4.0L I dont think) how much quicker are you going to be oi the track?

Without trying to be a snob, Im not going to the track with a car marginally heavier than the GT4, physically larger, with the same (or similar) gearbox and ok, maybe a 20bhp and 15lbft boost on the current stock GT3.

There will be nothing in it. I may as well buy a GT4, pocket the 70K USD and put that towards having fun on the track!!

Ok Im being a little factious here but this is the dilemma.

I love the PDK-S on the track and the 9000 rpm redline and with the DMS race headers Id hope shortly my car to be even quicker and more fun to drive on the road and track. But the accountant in me says to buy anything but MT (regardless of the reason, more fun on the road and all that) would be fiscal suicide in the secondary and trade market (compared to MT) and if I buy the MT I end up with a big Cayman that quite honestly even with the 4.0L I think would struggle to keep a well set up GT4 at bay on the track.

If Im going to hand my *** to the GT4s I may was well join them!

The only answer I can see is 991.1 GT3RS when the prices come down but my pay grade isnt high enough to biff one of those and repair ias my insurer wont cover that far in any case...

Im sitting here looking at the "new manual MT GT3 with 4.0L" everyone is going oh and hah about and I thinking I may as well stick with what Ive got or join the Gayman ranks!

Call me out and flame me, Im just having an online Epiphany thats all....

Macca

True buy you would think they would have those malady's sorted out by then, after-all the engine is same architecture fundamentally as the 4.0L. if they haven't got the finger rocker lubrication and coating sorted by now/then then they also have a problem with their 4.0L.

I think the engine will be 4.0L but due to keeping the family current with the GT3R for development efficencies more than anything else.

That said if the redline truely is 8800 (I suspect they have just used the 991.1 Gt3RS tacho in the mule) then it could point to a 3.8L unit because they WILL NOT launch a manual 1390kg GT3 next year with 4.0L engine that has a greater rev limit than the 8500 rpm 911R "halo" car or else surely they will be crucified?

LSs1Power

If i managed to get an R and Porsche came out with a GT3 running same engine and gearbox with new PCM and better downforce for 50k less i would be pissed. The rev limiter would be a small item on my pissed list lol

Metzeger

just for information the 991 GT3 have a software upgrade to prevent engine problem..the rev limit is not 9000 rpm but 8800 rpm a friend have this and on track or street never change between 9000 or 8800 rpm...this with the new engine! new code number for gt3 motor.

Macca

^^^ Agreed. Even worse if you paid 100K++ over like many will!

The rev line to me is important. At over son the 911R I would rather have a 997 4.0L RS for similar which actually has a better redline and Mezger engine (lighter and equally collectible)...

Macca

Pretty sure i would know about this if it were the case. Will make a call tonight to PAG and confirm tomorrow...