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Old 07-08-2016, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
the bottom line is that the car is priced in an arena because of the PDK that more people can get behind of the wheel with their new money. lots of them could not previously drive RS because of third pedal. it's more expensive than ever because it's physically easier for more people to drive. this is the duality.
The real question is : does one have to be a better driver to own a 991.1 GT3RS rather than a 991.1 GT3 because of more wrist involvement in the RS paddles?
Old 07-08-2016, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Marvinta
There 3 pages of used RS's on the Porsche website. For a rare car that seems like quite a few.
3 pages but 3rd page has 1 car

A more accurate representation would be number of cars.

There are 21 available on the Porsche site.

FYI, the amount have fluctuated between 18 and 22 for a while now.

On a more important note... are you related to Marv?
Old 07-08-2016, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by neanicu
The real question is : does one have to be a better driver to own a 991.1 GT3RS rather than a 991.1 GT3 because of more wrist involvement in the RS paddles?
I was told the paddles in the RS were lighter than the GT3. Now you've got me worried.

Seriously though, what attracted me more to the 991 GT cars was the ride livability not the pdk. I didn't want to have to smile through a kidney beating on less than perfect roads and unfortunately I drive more on bad roads than great tracks. I think they've greatly improved the ride performance compromise between road and track over the last few years.
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The number of RS's available in comparison to the population wanting them is minescule. This is driving price.

Because its an RS it's demand will likely always outweigh its availability. MHO.

Look at the # of GT350's avaiable. Hundreds. Still getting over MSRP for some. Don't know why personally with so many cars available.
Old 07-08-2016, 06:25 PM
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"Because its an RS it's demand will likely always outweigh its availability. MHO."


All we have to do is wait for me to land one and then ...want to sell. There will be no bid!

I paid a premium for my 07RS (175k 2008) and then traded in at 85k (2012)

Had to be the bottom tick!!!

I for one, love these threads as the wheeling and dealing is almost as much fun as driving them. It's like in Manhattan. The number one topic of cocktail party discussion? real estate prices.

On a distantly related note, my email address has gt3rs (since 2008) in it and I'm still waiting for the day that someone recognizes it when I give it out

Mario
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Originally Posted by mooty
20+ unlikely
30+ possible
40+ for sure
all above std color

pts... how desperate are you?
Mooty, where's the pics?
Old 07-08-2016, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
the bottom line is that the car is priced in an arena because of the PDK that more people can get behind of the wheel with their new money. lots of them could not previously drive RS because of third pedal.

it's more expensive than ever because it's physically easier for more people to drive. this is the duality.
You bring up a valid point, so do you think they will remain higher than previous MT RS's due to the fact there will always be more buyers out there?
Old 07-08-2016, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bronson7
You bring up a valid point, so do you think they will remain higher than previous MT RS's due to the fact there will always be more buyers out there?
Cars seem to hold value better when they are rare and not so popular.
An example is the BMW z8 that was a complete disaster. Both to drive and sales.

The 991rs is a great car in high demand and produced in greater numbers than any of its earlier siblings.
IMO it will hold its value IF no more NA RS are being made.
This is also the first RS that more people have bought specifically to make money.
Old 07-08-2016, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jlee504
Ralph is a great guy and $35k over is a steal on a build able spot if existing inventory isn't below $30k.

Yeesh $35k. Shoulda woulda coulda.
Yup, oh well...I got what I wanted. Money comes, money goes but experiences are priceless. I'll break the car in now in the summer when it's too hot to track and then in the fall I'll be ready to win the DE championship.
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Originally Posted by 997rs4.0
Cars seem to hold value better when they are rare and not so popular.
An example is the BMW z8 that was a complete disaster. Both to drive and sales.

The 991rs is a great car in high demand and produced in greater numbers than any of its earlier siblings.
IMO it will hold its value IF no more NA RS are being made.
This is also the first RS that more people have bought specifically to make money.
The problem with the Z8 is that it hit the market at a bad time. Also, it's really a top down gt cruiser homage to a car 99.9%of the population has no clue about. Eventually it rose to it's proper price point, and in fact should continue to rise. The RS is all based on a house of cards. People are overpaying to buy it based on cars from the past. Eventually the cards will collapse. I have no doubt this car will be worth what people are paying for it right now. In 15 years....
Old 07-09-2016, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bronson7
You bring up a valid point, so do you think they will remain higher than previous MT RS's due to the fact there will always be more buyers out there?
the top 10% of any category cross section will always outshine the second tier 25% by a lot.

There is a 911 hierarchy- and to me it is this, in no order:

1973RS with racing/rally history
1960's-1970's 911S coupe sunroof delete
993GT2
997 4.0RS
1967 911R
996RS
964RS
993RS
997RS
997 3.8RS
993TurboS
997GT2RS
997 SportClassic
89 Speedster
964 3.6T
964 Flachbau "x51 package"
964 Cup (road legal)
964 jubilee
993 C2s/C4S
964 RS America
930
1968 soft window targa
MFI 1970's car
94 speedster


where do you slot them? well that depends on if you actually drive them or not I suppose. where does the 991RS slot in? well that depends on what kind of driver you are...this is the first paint to sample car I've ever been able to get from Porsche but I had to buy it secondhand.

I'm a younger guy so it's not like I ever had access to half of these cars new- I was 16 years old when the 993TTS debuted- quite out of my range then.

My top desirable cars out of the list-

1967 R- (lol good luck)
997 4.0 (loved my first one, working on another one always)
997 GT2RS (not yet, working on it)
993 GT2 (working on it)
993 TTS (working on it)
964RS ( no idea where to start)
73RS

most practical-
964 RS America
993TT-S (almost too easy to drive)
997RS 3.6-3.8 (folding seats= road trip car and race track hauler)
993C2S/C4S- drove one every day for 3.5 years. loved it.
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
the top 10% of any category cross section will always outshine the second tier 25% by a lot.

There is a 911 hierarchy- and to me it is this, in no order:

1973RS with racing/rally history
1960's-1970's 911S coupe sunroof delete
993GT2
997 4.0RS
1967 911R
996RS
964RS
993RS
997RS
997 3.8RS
993TurboS
997GT2RS
997 SportClassic
89 Speedster
964 3.6T
964 Flachbau "x51 package"
964 Cup (road legal)
964 jubilee
993 C2s/C4S
964 RS America
930
1968 soft window targa
MFI 1970's car
94 speedster


where do you slot them? well that depends on if you actually drive them or not I suppose. where does the 991RS slot in? well that depends on what kind of driver you are...this is the first paint to sample car I've ever been able to get from Porsche but I had to buy it secondhand.

I'm a younger guy so it's not like I ever had access to half of these cars new- I was 16 years old when the 993TTS debuted- quite out of my range then.

My top desirable cars out of the list-

1967 R- (lol good luck)
997 4.0 (loved my first one, working on another one always)
997 GT2RS (not yet, working on it)
993 GT2 (working on it)
993 TTS (working on it)
964RS ( no idea where to start)
73RS

most practical-
964 RS America
993TT-S (almost too easy to drive)
997RS 3.6-3.8 (folding seats= road trip car and race track hauler)
993C2S/C4S- drove one every day for 3.5 years. loved it.
CJ, 993 TTS? Gotta make this happen...
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
the top 10% of any category cross section will always outshine the second tier 25% by a lot.

There is a 911 hierarchy- and to me it is this, in no order:

1973RS with racing/rally history
1960's-1970's 911S coupe sunroof delete
993GT2
997 4.0RS
1967 911R
996RS
964RS
993RS
997RS
997 3.8RS
993TurboS
997GT2RS
997 SportClassic
89 Speedster
964 3.6T
964 Flachbau "x51 package"
964 Cup (road legal)
964 jubilee
993 C2s/C4S
964 RS America
930
1968 soft window targa
MFI 1970's car
94 speedster


where do you slot them? well that depends on if you actually drive them or not I suppose. where does the 991RS slot in? well that depends on what kind of driver you are...this is the first paint to sample car I've ever been able to get from Porsche but I had to buy it secondhand.

I'm a younger guy so it's not like I ever had access to half of these cars new- I was 16 years old when the 993TTS debuted- quite out of my range then.

My top desirable cars out of the list-

1967 R- (lol good luck)
997 4.0 (loved my first one, working on another one always)
997 GT2RS (not yet, working on it)
993 GT2 (working on it)
993 TTS (working on it)
964RS ( no idea where to start)
73RS

most practical-
964 RS America
993TT-S (almost too easy to drive)
997RS 3.6-3.8 (folding seats= road trip car and race track hauler)
993C2S/C4S- drove one every day for 3.5 years. loved it.
C.J. you clearly have far more knowledge than I will ever have regarding Pcars, past and present so I thank you for this interesting post.
Old 07-09-2016, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
the bottom line is that the car is priced in an arena because of the PDK that more people can get behind of the wheel with their new money. lots of them could not previously drive RS because of third pedal. it's more expensive than ever because it's physically easier for more people to drive. this is the duality.
...and yet I was talking to someone today in the business who said the last generation of Ferraris with manual transmissions are starting to get good money at auctions because people want manuals. I do agree with you, though - it's simple supply and demand. More drivers = more demand.
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
the top 10% of any category cross section will always outshine the second tier 25% by a lot. There is a 911 hierarchy- and to me it is this, in no order: 1973RS with racing/rally history 1960's-1970's 911S coupe sunroof delete 993GT2 997 4.0RS 1967 911R 996RS 964RS 993RS 997RS 997 3.8RS 993TurboS 997GT2RS 997 SportClassic 89 Speedster 964 3.6T 964 Flachbau "x51 package" 964 Cup (road legal) 964 jubilee 993 C2s/C4S 964 RS America 930 1968 soft window targa MFI 1970's car 94 speedster where do you slot them? well that depends on if you actually drive them or not I suppose. where does the 991RS slot in? well that depends on what kind of driver you are...this is the first paint to sample car I've ever been able to get from Porsche but I had to buy it secondhand. I'm a younger guy so it's not like I ever had access to half of these cars new- I was 16 years old when the 993TTS debuted- quite out of my range then. My top desirable cars out of the list- 1967 R- (lol good luck) 997 4.0 (loved my first one, working on another one always) 997 GT2RS (not yet, working on it) 993 GT2 (working on it) 993 TTS (working on it) 964RS ( no idea where to start) 73RS most practical- 964 RS America 993TT-S (almost too easy to drive) 997RS 3.6-3.8 (folding seats= road trip car and race track hauler) 993C2S/C4S- drove one every day for 3.5 years. loved it.
No love for the 993 RSR?


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