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Old 11-07-2017, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by isv
Is the 2rs actually a true dry sump engine? Or is it still the 'integrated dry sump' from the turbo s given it's as far as I can tell a heavily adapted turbo s engine...
Not answered here, but some interesting info. (Seems like front splitter is adjustable)

http://www.motortrend.com/news/2018-...ence-of-speed/
Old 11-07-2017, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TB993tt
This article talks about an adjustable front splitter I don't think this is true, the splitter is fixed it is obvious from the pics.

This guy obviously has very little technical knowledge

The 3.8-liter GT2 RS engine makes its peak power at 7,000 rpm, at which point its still developing more than 516 lb-ft of torque. Thats unusually high in the rev band for a turbocharged engine and is the reason the GT2 RS feels so astonishingly quick between 6,000 and 7,000 rpm.

516ftlb at 7000rpm is not unusually high for an engine which makes 700hp at 7000rpm it is a mathematical certainty, this guy shouldn't be allowed to pen this sort of crap
The guy clearly lacks an understanding of elementary math.
Old 11-07-2017, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Footsoldier
Not answered here, but some interesting info. (Seems like front splitter is adjustable)

http://www.motortrend.com/news/2018-...ence-of-speed/
Frim the link above:

Increasing the downforce involves increasing the angle of attack of the rear wing and removing blanking parts—exactly the same as those used on the Porsche 911 Cup racers—from the splitter. The rear wing doesn’t generate quite as much downforce as that of the GT3 RS. “That’s deliberate,” Preuninger says. “We want to be able to alter the balance of the car front to rear.”
Old 11-07-2017, 09:36 AM
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During the car’s development, engineers found steel cables were needed to hold up the front splitter. “The splitter started to sag when we went above 186 mph, throwing the car completely off balance,” Preuninger says. “So we had to attach three steel cables to hold it in place. The force on the splitter—from the airflow and the effect of the low-pressure cell underneath—was more than 440 pounds, and it’s a plastic part. We used nylon cables first, but they kept snapping.”
Old 11-07-2017, 10:14 AM
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Hopefully they carry over this firmer setup to new 3 RS:

'The wheel carriers and control arms are shared with the GT3 RS. Ride height, camber, caster, toe, and stabilizer bar settings are all adjustable. The big change is in the spring rates. The front springs are 2.6 times stiffer than that of the GT3 RS, and the rear springs are 33 percent stiffer. Its more like a race car now, Preuninger says. Its a lot less prone to roll, yaw, and pitch motions on the track, but to compensate when youre driving it on the street, the stabilizer bars are softer.'

Interesting anchor point for anti-roll bar. Wonder what the small linkage circled in red is for??
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Old 11-07-2017, 10:16 AM
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From the initial pictures of the GT2RS front splitter, it is hard to find where those three steel cables are attached/connected to. Whereas on my Viper ACR it is steel rods that brace the front splitter, which is made of carbon fiber not plastic. It would be nice if anyone have "Kingkong" in his/her garage if they can share where those three steel cables are hidden as it is very discreet based on initial release of GT2RS pictures.

I will seek the help of Bob Linton as he is very knowledgeable and a Subject Matter Expert (SME) when it comes to manufacturing PORSCHE GT cars lightened materials such as carbon fiber components.

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Originally Posted by TB993tt
Awesome

During the cars development, engineers found steel cables were needed to hold up the front splitter. The splitter started to sag when we went above 186 mph, throwing the car completely off balance, Preuninger says. So we had to attach three steel cables to hold it in place. The force on the splitterfrom the airflow and the effect of the low-pressure cell underneathwas more than 440 pounds, and its a plastic part. We used nylon cables first, but they kept snapping.
Old 11-07-2017, 11:01 AM
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The more I see and read, the more I hope the GT3RS is a GT2RS with the GT3 engine.
Seems like the best of both worlds for me.
Old 11-07-2017, 11:17 AM
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^^ good point.
The .2GT3RS should be the main actor of our soggy dreams.



200hp more (170hp more compared with the .2) are for sure fun. the torque will lead to heavy improvements against the clock.
but for the soul. and the long lasting fun. for the bigger difference between dailydriver and warrior. maybe the GT3s do it better.
curious if somebody will say this out loud during a review.



and did you all see and read the redline: at 7.200 !!
seven thousand two hundred. it is a diesel it seems.
suddenly i remember all the gossip from the Ferrari guys about the 488 - and its "wrong" (not up to 8.000) redline but superb "N/A like" power delivery. will give us the GT2RS engine more emotions than the 488GTB engine? maybe not. and we compare cars from 2015 vs. 2018.
will do F a better (even if a 1/10 slower) GT2RS with the 488"GTO" which will be in Geneva 2018?

im just conscious joining the opposition.

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Old 11-07-2017, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Wonder what the small linkage circled in red is for??
Looks like a sensor to measure ride height maybe? That would be expected on a development car; on a production car I could imagine them tying into PASM or perhaps traction control?
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Originally Posted by Petevb
Looks like a sensor to measure ride height maybe? .. on a production car I could imagine them tying into PASM or perhaps traction control?
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but weird that this isnt/wasnt already stated somewhere.? that dampers or traction control includes infos from ride height is new. at least for me.
those poti will have a tough life.
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Hopefully they carry over this firmer setup to new 3 RS:

'The wheel carriers and control arms are shared with the GT3 RS. Ride height, camber, caster, toe, and stabilizer bar settings are all adjustable. The big change is in the spring rates. The front springs are 2.6 times stiffer than that of the GT3 RS, and the rear springs are 33 percent stiffer. Its more like a race car now, Preuninger says. Its a lot less prone to roll, yaw, and pitch motions on the track, but to compensate when youre driving it on the street, the stabilizer bars are softer.'
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I'm loving the fact that it's fully rose jointed. No rubber.

Way better connection.
Old 11-07-2017, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
The more I see and read, the more I hope the GT3RS is a GT2RS with the GT3 engine.
Seems like the best of both worlds for me.
Agree, could be very special indeed. EST posted this in another thread:

The real test will come in 2018, when the revised 991.2 GT3 RS arrives offering all the serious chassis and body tweaks of the GT2 but with less weight and a 9000rpm naturally aspirated sting in the tail. It could well be the best of the lot, though by then, the GT2 will likely have sold out.

Full article with other good comparisons to the .2 GT3 here:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-rev...-2017-review1/
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Off topic: Going to sell my GT3RS to make room for the 2RS (although I may regret this). Better to remove a GMG half cage or leave it in for a sale? Any opinions?
Old 11-07-2017, 03:34 PM
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^ Stock normally results in faster sale, better to remove it.
Old 11-07-2017, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Petevb
Looks like a sensor to measure ride height maybe? That would be expected on a development car; on a production car I could imagine them tying into PASM or perhaps traction control?
I assume the GT3 already has those? Have them in my GT4, ride height sensors that, among other things, help inform the self leveling of the pdls lights.


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