Chris3963

I was at Spa last Saturday for a track day. Got talking to another GT3 owner from Stuttgart (not sure if he is on this board) who had taken delivery of his GT3 early this year. One of the last European bound GT3s off the line.

G series engine is to be replaced due to very high oil consumption...1+ litre per 1000km I think he said. So another one down but this time not due to the miss-fire issue.

Just in time

IIRC there was a class action lawsuit in the US. The case was settled by Porsche agreeing to cover the cost of repair for certain 996s and 981s built during a defined period. The settlement called for a 10 year coverage period even if the car was not affected by the IMS issue prior to the settlement.

So in short the answer to your question is YES but not voluntarily. I have to think the 996 settlement must weigh heavily in PAGs decision to replace/rebuild all those MA175 GT3s motors afflicted by the CEL issue (AFAIK no one has been denied yet). Stay tuned.

RobbieRob

Whew, My eyes are crossed and I have a major headache trying to read all these pages.. Is it safe to say that my G series engine is safe for many miles or not?

the-missile

many miles for low rpm no track abuse: YES

everything different than above especially with abuse is NO

hf1

Better to go for breaking it before warranty expires and get the (then) best solution for free. So get busy!

Match-Lave

Actually/ some strong evidence suggests that keeping low/mid rpm may be the worse thing on this particular motor along with repetitive cold starts around town with daily driving - see Macca's exceptional explanation in earlier replies. There are cases reported here I believe that substantiate this. Sorry to make your head spin more - my head spun off along time ago.

bronson7

What if we sent PAG a letter asking what their plans are if we get an engine failure beyond warranty? I can't wait to hear the comments on this.

neanicu

" Dear Mr Bronson,

All our team here at PAG and our colleagues at PCNA,we'd like to assure you we will do everything in our power to insure the utmost satisfaction for the most valued asset of our company : the customer. We will work tirelessly with our dealer network to insure the proper operation of our cars and make you confident you have made the right choice when buying a Porsche product. "

Best regards,
Franz Winterktophen.

CC : forward automated message. End. "

bronson7

Nick, you always seem to put a smile on my face.

Match-Lave

Here is a PDF of this thread up to today's date for those that have requested. 600 pages.

chance

awesome thank you!!!

Just in time

Bronson, I think you are on to something. I am no lawyer but I would guess that it would serve us well to put Porsche on notice that we are well aware of this issue. I would think it would help us create a timeline and maybe in effect extend our "warranty" for a longer period.

I guess your idea of asking what their plans are, either results in a flat denial that there is pervading issue, which we all know is incorrect, or them addressing us for something they know represents a long term liability issue.

I don't see any downside and if any it would help us in demonstrating we are trying to address the issue.

If this goes forward I am in. Thanks.

MileHigh911

I would sign on too.

bronson7

Much appreciated.

allans

Some Series V Viper engines are being destroyed by poor engine block cleaning before assembly. This has resulted in several main bearing failures. Number of engines is not publicly known but is estimated to be as much as 10% of total production. To address this Dodge has just extended their Power train Warranty from 5 to 10 years. There are still many questions unanswered but, at least some action has been taken. Maybe Porsche can be led in this direction. Best, Allan