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Old 11-30-2015 | 12:54 PM
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I wish you would have been the buyer of Austin's dealership given your ties here, just a car dork's wish.
yeah me too. wife likes austin. we would have moved back for that.
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Viper looks like a beast. I probably know the answer to this, but how is that Viper like driving it in the street? Is the transmission a chore? Too rough compared to Porsche GT cars? Rubbing everywhere?
Old 11-30-2015 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shaytun
Viper looks like a beast. I probably know the answer to this, but how is that Viper like driving it in the street? Is the transmission a chore? Too rough compared to Porsche GT cars? Rubbing everywhere?
it's for sure less refined but the clutch pedal is long and light and the shifting is fairly springy. it's just like a 993TT in terms of gearbox/clutch. the tires don't rub or anything- the only issue is the spring rates- on the ACR I think it has 600lbs up front and 1000 in rear which is really stiff. No idea on the TA or other models but they're probably softer/ more compliant.
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Nice addition to the garage.

But the P1 is still your favorite, right?
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
so, if someone forced me to spend 325k on car purchases right now:

150k 991GT3
130k ACR track beater.
45k left over!! tire budget. truck/tools budget!!!

or,
150k-225k 997RS keeper
100kGT4 Cayman Track beater

or 997RS and ACR.

I would not personally go anywhere near a 991RS for 300k. 200k?? I'm all over it. I think 240k would be my ceiling based on the fact that the car is just not as fun to drive as the previous Generation...
Thanks for the detailed and enjoyable review. Definitely plants a seed in my mind regarding the ACR.

Given your thoughts on the 991 RS, could you elaborate on why the 991 GT3 made the cut, above?
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Originally Posted by EMpunker
Nice addition to the garage.

But the P1 is still your favorite, right?
like I said earlier the P1/918 etc are totally different cars. I own too many cars but the "regular" super cars are what I am comparing here. The P1 is in it's own class of preposterously expensive and ridiculously fast cars...

if I were to compare the P1 to cars it would be like the hyper 5 video except I actually know facts about the cars.
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Thanks for the detailed and enjoyable review. Definitely plants a seed in my mind regarding the ACR.

Given your thoughts on the 991 RS, could you elaborate on why the 991 GT3 made the cut, above?
the GT3 for the money (150k) is really a great all around car- immensely capable and reliable. it's certainly more refined than the ACR but nowhere close to as fast in any measurable capacity. plus with everyone complaining about the PDK only status...the ACR is 6-spd only.

my biggest gripe with the pdk is the size of the paddles. they're the same ones that come on a DSG VW Gti. I like a little taller paddle so I can flick it with my pinky mid drift...lol
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Not going to fit in a viper.
So I'm doing ok at MSRP 195RS, 95GT4, 100RSA hot rod I guess, can't count money pit '83 CS race car but E class PCA is so much fun..

Not that I have much except cars but I have everything I ever dreamt of this side of a private intercontinental jet, and that's so far off the extra effort / risk just doesnt seem worth it to trade track time for work time. More track time it is
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
if I were to compare the P1 to cars it would be like the hyper 5 video except I actually know facts about the cars.
that would be a review I bet I'd really enjoy reading
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C. J. - You review was an excellent. I would be interested in you top (5-7) cars for street driving. I do not track but enjoy spirited weekend drives. I love my GT3 and enjoy it on the street although most love to post a waste of money not to be able to exploit her. But- I love the rawness, sound, and NA engine. I have owned a 997.2 Turbo, and R8 V10 and certainly prefer the GT3 for my intended use.( I can not help but eye the new Lambo 580-2 but will wait for the next NA Manual that intrigues me - hoping that may be the 991.2 GT3)
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C. J. - You review was an excellent. I would be interested in you top (5-7) cars for street driving. I do not track but enjoy spirited weekend drives. I love my GT3 and enjoy it on the street although most love to post a waste of money not to be able to exploit her. But- I love the rawness, sound, and NA engine. I have owned a 997.2 Turbo, and R8 V10 and certainly prefer the GT3 for my intended use.( I can not help but eye the new Lambo 580-2 but will wait for the next NA Manual that intrigues me - hoping that may be the 991.2 GT3)
You MUST try the GT4!
Old 11-30-2015 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
yeah me too. wife likes austin. we would have moved back for that.
I'm in for 1% of the dealership, then I can call myself a principal. Just wait for the next economic downturn to make your move.
Old 11-30-2015 | 09:35 PM
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CJ Thanks for the write up. Everything you say about the ACR is true. It is an incredible street legal track car. Street manners are fine at the softest shock setting even with pretty stiff springs - 600/1300. It's today's best possible choice for those that want a fast, rugged, drive it hard experience. No frills. Best, Allan
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great review. I have a TA w/ DSC Tractive suspension and drive WSIR and the car is just fantastic there
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great write-up! thank you for it.

I want an ACR! I've always loved the Vipers, but I've just never been confident in my skills that I can tame one, especially on track.


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