Sticker shock, don't crash the RS
11-20-2015 | 09:17 AM
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In the BIG scope of things, isn't the roof, hood, and special material bumper stuff just overkill?? Marketing fluff? I know SOME weight savings but still ....
Really going to shave off that much lap time that a few pointers wouldn't go further? If building a true track car, why not make reasonable replacements (GT3 prices)? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Really going to shave off that much lap time that a few pointers wouldn't go further? If building a true track car, why not make reasonable replacements (GT3 prices)? Correct me if I'm wrong.
11-20-2015 | 09:41 AM
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11-20-2015 | 10:10 AM
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This thread illustrates perfectly why the RS is a pointless car. Amazing car it is, and, most definitely gorgeous to look at. But look at all the people already saying basically that they wont track this car due to repair costs. I can't blame them either. But this car is DESIGNED to be a track car that can be used on the street and not the other way around such as the Turbo. Further proof that the Ferrari/Lambo museum piece keeper has infiltrated into the Porsche Marquee. Totally sad, but also very understandable with the RS's price point and how much you stand to lose and take on a depreciation from repairs if needed.
11-20-2015 | 10:13 AM
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I really think the reality of all these specialty replacement parts is gone a bit too far. Overall cost of the RS at msrp is fine, but its the cost of replacement parts that seem way out of wack. I wonder for the guys that truly want to track their cars, would they if they paid msrp vs mark up over msrp?
11-20-2015 | 10:26 AM
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In the BIG scope of things, isn't the roof, hood, and special material bumper stuff just overkill?? Marketing fluff? I know SOME weight savings but still .... Really going to shave off that much lap time that a few pointers wouldn't go further? If building a true track car, why not make reasonable replacements (GT3 prices)? Correct me if I'm wrong.
11-20-2015 | 10:43 AM
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From: The way to hell is paved by good intentions “Wenn ich Purist höre...entsichere ich meinen Browning” "Myths are fuel for marketing (and nowadays for flippers too,,,)" time to time is not sufficient to be a saint, you must be also an Hero
In the BIG scope of things, isn't the roof, hood, and special material bumper stuff just overkill?? Marketing fluff? I know SOME weight savings but still ....
Really going to shave off that much lap time that a few pointers wouldn't go further? If building a true track car, why not make reasonable replacements (GT3 prices)? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Really going to shave off that much lap time that a few pointers wouldn't go further? If building a true track car, why not make reasonable replacements (GT3 prices)? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Why not a light PDK S saving 50 kg at least
rather than marketing fluff for maybe 1 kg (but less compared to carbon)?
? I see the roof is
all about Customers pockets when
1 Buying the car
2 Replacing
while the PDK
ask for PAG RnD pocket as well so muuuch less profit
but don t tell me a 400grams saved on roof is worth a 50kg saved on pdk
11-20-2015 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Macca
If you look at what they weight the hood and the roof save about 20lb over a stock CarreraS. For $50k I can have 20lb removed from me and plenty of change lol!
Lipo anyone?? 
11-20-2015 | 10:55 AM
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Getty Design has a 991 CF Hood for $1,239, Cup CF Doors for $2,599. They have the entire coachwork for the 981, but I guess haven't had the demand for the 991 yet. I'm sure they could do some fenders with vents.
11-20-2015 | 11:21 AM
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I am in the biz here...
Here is another point that hasn't been brought up.
If there is a total loss the insurance company is liable for the value of the car at the time of the loss. So I am sure that their database does not have any info on these cars, so next resort is a search on the net! What prices will they find!?!?!!?!?!?!
Here is another point that hasn't been brought up.
If there is a total loss the insurance company is liable for the value of the car at the time of the loss. So I am sure that their database does not have any info on these cars, so next resort is a search on the net! What prices will they find!?!?!!?!?!?!
11-20-2015 | 01:35 PM
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True, I saw a Ferrari 330GTO running at Lime Rock a few years back. I'm sure running the RS wouldn't concern them at all.
11-20-2015 | 02:39 PM
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In the BIG scope of things, isn't the roof, hood, and special material bumper stuff just overkill?? Marketing fluff? I know SOME weight savings but still ....
Really going to shave off that much lap time that a few pointers wouldn't go further? If building a true track car, why not make reasonable replacements (GT3 prices)? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Really going to shave off that much lap time that a few pointers wouldn't go further? If building a true track car, why not make reasonable replacements (GT3 prices)? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Just look at BMW who have given up (mostly) on special body parts after the e60 and the cars are just incredibly heavy. And that is after the engineers have optimized out construction when it doesn't affect cost, especially in unsprung weight.
A lot of engineering time already went into all the low hanging fruit.
And who knows, maybe it is very good business for Porsche to provide those super expensive body panels. These profits might be a significant part of their overall calculation when offering the GT cars so cheap (before rarity). And they don't make the buyers too angry since it is usually an insurance picking up the bill for body panels.