Sticker shock, don't crash the RS
11-20-2015, 02:42 PM
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It is just very difficult to save weight anywhere else.
Just look at BMW who have given up (mostly) on special body parts after the e60 and the cars are just incredibly heavy. And that is after the engineers have optimized out construction when it doesn't affect cost, especially in unsprung weight.
A lot of engineering time already went into all the low hanging fruit.
And who knows, maybe it is very good business for Porsche to provide those super expensive body panels. These profits might be a significant part of their overall calculation when offering the GT cars so cheap (before rarity). And they don't make the buyers too angry since it is usually an insurance picking up the bill for body panels.
Just look at BMW who have given up (mostly) on special body parts after the e60 and the cars are just incredibly heavy. And that is after the engineers have optimized out construction when it doesn't affect cost, especially in unsprung weight.
A lot of engineering time already went into all the low hanging fruit.
And who knows, maybe it is very good business for Porsche to provide those super expensive body panels. These profits might be a significant part of their overall calculation when offering the GT cars so cheap (before rarity). And they don't make the buyers too angry since it is usually an insurance picking up the bill for body panels.
base models to huge torque of TurboS and reusing them for motorsport(?) models
i am pretending from a 200k car much more figure out for 250k
it hasn t to weight more than 1300kg the rest is trash
and less is impossible (from a reasonable price standpoint) without being unlegal (safety on street)
11-20-2015, 06:17 PM
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I am in the biz here... Here is another point that hasn't been brought up. If there is a total loss the insurance company is liable for the value of the car at the time of the loss. So I am sure that their database does not have any info on these cars, so next resort is a search on the net! What prices will they find!?!?!!?!?!?! 
11-20-2015, 06:36 PM
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Hadn't had track insurance but I'll also have track insurance. And a GT4.
If you click on my signature you will see plenty of Youtubes with drovers almost cutting the nose of my RS.
I really think the reality of all these specialty replacement parts is gone a bit too far. Overall cost of the RS at msrp is fine, but its the cost of replacement parts that seem way out of wack. I wonder for the guys that truly want to track their cars, would they if they paid msrp vs mark up over msrp?
What's a GT4 front fender cost....
11-20-2015, 06:58 PM
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Speaking of weight, gas weighs about 6 pounds per gallon, and the full extended range tank is about 24 gallons, so about 140 pounds difference between full and empty tank. That's a lot of weight, yet people hardly talk about how it affects lap time and balance of the car.
11-20-2015, 07:00 PM
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Speaking of weight, gas weighs about 6 pounds per gallon, and the full extended range tank is about 24 gallons, so about 140 pounds difference between full and empty tank. That's a lot of weight, yet people hardly talk about how it affects lap time and balance of the car.
11-21-2015, 12:27 AM
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I am probably going to regret saying this.... 
Why would anyone put a car on a track surface to drive the snot out of it, if they can't walk away from a shunt without a bottle of valium? I don't get it. It's going to be the slowest car on the track if you're afraid of it.
Why would anyone put a car on a track surface to drive the snot out of it, if they can't walk away from a shunt without a bottle of valium? I don't get it. It's going to be the slowest car on the track if you're afraid of it.
11-21-2015, 12:35 AM
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So true. Cheapest modification I made to my car which improved my lap times by over 1.5s a lap consistently was not tires or aero but full cover track insurance lol!
11-21-2015, 05:00 AM
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I called the dealer to get the air scoop inserts ordered (so I can paint them UV) but didn't when he told me they list at over $600 each. That's not the shock though as while he was on that parts page, he told me the price of the front fender on the RS. Ready for it? $14,000 each!! I'm pretty sure my insurance company has no clue as to RS parts pricing. Ouch!
very close
i plan to park my in the living room. and put soft pads through out the house
11-21-2015, 09:57 AM
#55
Simple
Sell RS to one of the sheeple for $100k + profit
Re-purchase Mexico Blue GT3 from avatar
Enjoy blue car on street, Viper on track
Problem solved
Bill
11-21-2015, 11:32 AM
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Ignoring the price gouging - I paid list, the RS is way cheaper than running a new cup car on the track. CF parts for a Cup car aren't cheap either. I don't want to go the truck trailer rooute nor buy an engine and tranny refresh at 40-70 hours. So the RS makes sense to me and I love tracking it., I will love it more when I can get some decent wheels and sticky tires for it. The Cup2s overheat after 4 laps and spoil the fun.
11-21-2015, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake;12777502? I don't get it. It's going to be the slowest car on the track if you're afraid of it.
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So true, my problem is my testosterone levels are to high. All that worrying goes out the window! I know I have issues, hence why I bought this! It is a total hoot to drive and super cheap to maintain.
11-21-2015, 12:39 PM
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11-21-2015, 02:08 PM
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I took my porta power and oped up the seat! I fit like a glove.
I can say that I need a friend to help me with 4 point harness as I have athletic build and cannot grab the shoulder harness.
I must admit it does take practice getting in and out but you can do it Sam!
I PROMISE IF YOU SPEND A DAY IN MY CAR YOU WOULD WRITE ME A CHECK AND BUY IT!