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http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...ely-expensive/
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/07/22/p...cket-official/
http://jalopnik.com/you-can-buy-thre...his-1784142439
Truly "Unobtanium."
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Yeah the Bubble is on full blast.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...ely-expensive/ http://www.autoblog.com/2016/07/22/p...cket-official/ http://jalopnik.com/you-can-buy-thre...his-1784142439 Truly "Unobtanium." Drive safe, GT3RS-Fan1
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I agree. Once the hysteria simmers down I believe flywheel choice will have an effect on the value of the car. It is my understanding that only DM flywheel cars have been delivered so far. That would include the so called 1m+ car. But I don't know that any car has really changed hands. I hear about 2-3 hundred over but know of no real transaction. I know one 918 owner car that gave, not sold, an order to an employee/friend.
I was concerned about my mid-September build and parts availability for the LWFW but was assured the car will have it. In my opinion the LWFW is intrinsic to the performance of the car and the overall driving experience.
If history is any indicator the A/C PCM delete cars will ultimately be the most valuable. I recently sold one of the few (and probably lightest) A/C Radio delete 997.2 3.8 RSs' in the U.S. I received very good money for the car. But it also had only 1500 miles. Part of the reason such an incredible car had only 1500 miles is that it was almost unusable without A/C. The outside air temperature of my '92 964 RS was reasonably close to the cabin temperature with windows down. But that wasn't true for my 997.2 RS. It effectively had radiant heat.
My R was ordered with A/C and will get driven regularly. Too many of these great cars wind up in what I call a Porsche "graveyard." Someone else can worry about the value of the car when I'm in the graveyard.
I was concerned about my mid-September build and parts availability for the LWFW but was assured the car will have it. In my opinion the LWFW is intrinsic to the performance of the car and the overall driving experience.
If history is any indicator the A/C PCM delete cars will ultimately be the most valuable. I recently sold one of the few (and probably lightest) A/C Radio delete 997.2 3.8 RSs' in the U.S. I received very good money for the car. But it also had only 1500 miles. Part of the reason such an incredible car had only 1500 miles is that it was almost unusable without A/C. The outside air temperature of my '92 964 RS was reasonably close to the cabin temperature with windows down. But that wasn't true for my 997.2 RS. It effectively had radiant heat.
My R was ordered with A/C and will get driven regularly. Too many of these great cars wind up in what I call a Porsche "graveyard." Someone else can worry about the value of the car when I'm in the graveyard.
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If anyone knows how I could get a second one for 100-125k over let me know.
Spoke with Chris Harris at an event recently and he is sad he couldn't get one. We had an extended convo about it and what he said about it one can only regard as highest praise.
Then he showed me a slo mo video on his phone drifting it.
Spoke with Chris Harris at an event recently and he is sad he couldn't get one. We had an extended convo about it and what he said about it one can only regard as highest praise.
Then he showed me a slo mo video on his phone drifting it.
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Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I'm trying to understand the rationale behind this 2X+ "market correction".
Under the assumption that the 991.2 GT3 will be NA & Manual, a little patience could save you big, big $$.
If the beauty & desirability of the 911R is the "pure" experience, it would appear that a few months down the road there will be a much cheaper & more readily available solution by way of the GT3.
Alternatively, if you did have a 911R allocation, why wouldn't you arrange the sale of it ASAP for these silly prices - knowing that you'll have the option of the next GT3 shortly thereafter?
I'm still trying to frame up the 911R's place in the Porsche lineage. It's not the first of a breed, it's not the last. I regularly track a 991RS (6500 miles since september!) and to me, i cant help but think the market is paying for a badge on the dashboard that says "XXX of 911". No matter how many times I watch a video from AP talking about a brand new car.... this sure seems like a parts-bin stunt to me:
Not sure how to place a youtube link, but this seems appropriate:
Under the assumption that the 991.2 GT3 will be NA & Manual, a little patience could save you big, big $$.
If the beauty & desirability of the 911R is the "pure" experience, it would appear that a few months down the road there will be a much cheaper & more readily available solution by way of the GT3.
Alternatively, if you did have a 911R allocation, why wouldn't you arrange the sale of it ASAP for these silly prices - knowing that you'll have the option of the next GT3 shortly thereafter?
I'm still trying to frame up the 911R's place in the Porsche lineage. It's not the first of a breed, it's not the last. I regularly track a 991RS (6500 miles since september!) and to me, i cant help but think the market is paying for a badge on the dashboard that says "XXX of 911". No matter how many times I watch a video from AP talking about a brand new car.... this sure seems like a parts-bin stunt to me:
Not sure how to place a youtube link, but this seems appropriate:
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I was concerned about my mid-September build and parts availability for the LWFW but was assured the car will have it. In my opinion the LWFW is intrinsic to the performance of the car and the overall driving experience.
My R was ordered with A/C and will get driven regularly. Too many of these great cars wind up in what I call a Porsche "graveyard." Someone else can worry about the value of the car when I'm in the graveyard.
My R was ordered with A/C and will get driven regularly. Too many of these great cars wind up in what I call a Porsche "graveyard." Someone else can worry about the value of the car when I'm in the graveyard.
But I will keep looking and waiting and hoping for one that will be driven, not parked, not flipped. Sorry C.J., but I would do 150 over today for a December delivery. Silver or white.....any out there ????
Guess I need to get in line........
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The badge is the "cosmetic" part that most people put emphasis on. In actuality it is how the car was put in its "totality" that makes it very desirable.
What drives the 911R this much is because of what the car offers in terms of fun and engagement.. There are only 991 copies among collectors, enthusiasts, purists, fanatics, diehard, and whomever else is out there wanting it get one. There is too much demand for very little supply, simple economics.
Anything good we will agree will command price and attention. Yeah I agree this is big time bubble. What I can see though is this car will never lose its luster and value. Even if times lapse into decades, the car will hold its place in history and my humble estimation will hold at least twice the cost of its MSRP. A great and similar example would be the 997.2 GT3RS limited to 600 copies.
To those fortunate ones who will get the opportunity to drive and own one, enjoy it. As the saying goes, life is too short, we cannot take it with us anyways.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
What drives the 911R this much is because of what the car offers in terms of fun and engagement.. There are only 991 copies among collectors, enthusiasts, purists, fanatics, diehard, and whomever else is out there wanting it get one. There is too much demand for very little supply, simple economics.
Anything good we will agree will command price and attention. Yeah I agree this is big time bubble. What I can see though is this car will never lose its luster and value. Even if times lapse into decades, the car will hold its place in history and my humble estimation will hold at least twice the cost of its MSRP. A great and similar example would be the 997.2 GT3RS limited to 600 copies.
To those fortunate ones who will get the opportunity to drive and own one, enjoy it. As the saying goes, life is too short, we cannot take it with us anyways.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
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The badge is the "cosmetic" part that most people put emphasis on. In actuality it is how the car was put in its "totality" that makes it very desirable.
What drives the 911R this much is because of what the car offers in terms of fun and engagement.. There are only 991 copies among collectors, enthusiasts, purists, fanatics, diehard, and whomever else is out there wanting it get one. There is too much demand for very little supply, simple economics.
Anything good we will agree will command price and attention. Yeah I agree this is big time bubble. What I can see though is this car will never lose its luster and value. Even if times lapse into decades, the car will hold its place in history and my humble estimation will hold at least twice the cost of its MSRP. A great and similar example would be the 997.2 GT3RS limited to 600 copies.
To those fortunate ones who will get the opportunity to drive and own one, enjoy it. As the saying goes, life is too short, we cannot take it with us anyways.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
What drives the 911R this much is because of what the car offers in terms of fun and engagement.. There are only 991 copies among collectors, enthusiasts, purists, fanatics, diehard, and whomever else is out there wanting it get one. There is too much demand for very little supply, simple economics.
Anything good we will agree will command price and attention. Yeah I agree this is big time bubble. What I can see though is this car will never lose its luster and value. Even if times lapse into decades, the car will hold its place in history and my humble estimation will hold at least twice the cost of its MSRP. A great and similar example would be the 997.2 GT3RS limited to 600 copies.
To those fortunate ones who will get the opportunity to drive and own one, enjoy it. As the saying goes, life is too short, we cannot take it with us anyways.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
I certainly agree with a lot of what you're saying. However the example you reference is exactly my point. There were ~600 997.2 RS 4L's. This car was the absolute last of the Metzger engined, manual, analog cars. In fact, it was the very last of the 997 gen alltogether. It marked the end of a lineage.
Now come the 991.1 911R. It's a car that certainly is the sum of its amazing parts, but that with almost certainty will again be offered only months further down the road in the 991.2 GT3.
I suppose that's what I'm struggling to wrap my head around.