PCCB vs Steel - Apologies
#16
Three Wheelin'
18 months down the road, the extra money I spent on PCCB's is a non-issue and forgotten. OTOH, I love the feel of the brakes on the street and for autocross and the fact that they are lighter, make no dust, and look terrific. If I were buying a car for anything other than all out track use (given normal use PCCB rotors will last virtually the life of the car), as a buyer I'd be looking for a car with PCCB's based on my experience with them so far. Just my $.02.
#18
Race Director
I totally agree. My last car had iron brakes and the brake dust was annoying. Also the rust after a wash. You had to do everything to keep that from not happening. I don't track but I'm sure a few track days a year won't kill them. Unless I start to be a track ratt, my next car will have Pccb. Also are the newest generation Pccb better from track wear?
At our GT3 owner's tech session in Atlanta we were told that the latest Gen III ceramic brakes were much more durable than the previous model for all uses, including track. All relative, of course....
#19
Race Director
Resale value will not get a $.01 more for the yellow calipers. Now- if money were not an issue and I was street driving a good percentage of the time I would get them. I have the stock brakes and am very happy. But, after driving a Porsche at their new driving center in May with Ceramics I would get them now. Yes- I am converted
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#21
I have about 1,000 track miles and 6,500 total miles on my car; had the dealer electronically test the rotors recently and for all intensive purposes no discernible wear. About 2-½ mm pad wear on 12 mm pads. But if and when the day comes that the rotors need to replaced, writing a check for $20K will be hard to swallow.
#22
Nordschleife Master
if you can afford a $150k, get the highest spec, lightest possible setup, so that you know you are feeling the car as light-footed as you can, no brake dust, same brakes as 918, and cosmetically look cool...
many feel differently, I know. But even for the biggest detractors it has never been about the quality of the brakes, its been about premature expensive wear on the track...
if you aren't tracking, its a no brainer to me... if you are tracking, even then, its a money issue that only you can decide... i know 991gt3 owners that run their cars at the local COTA track and love their OEM PCCB setup...
many feel differently, I know. But even for the biggest detractors it has never been about the quality of the brakes, its been about premature expensive wear on the track...
if you aren't tracking, its a no brainer to me... if you are tracking, even then, its a money issue that only you can decide... i know 991gt3 owners that run their cars at the local COTA track and love their OEM PCCB setup...
#24
One other downside of the PCCB on track: if you don't like the feel, there is very little you can do about it (I wouldn't want to try any aftermarket pads).
#26
Rennlist Member
For other GT3 generations, the PCCB offer no resale premium. Apples and oranges I know with this generation, but an indicator. If strickly resale they have a poor return, compared to say LWB.
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#28
Three Wheelin'
I know I'm one of the few but if there was two used cars option the same other then brakes but the pccb car was 9k more, I would be spending 9k more on a car..
#29
To me it wouldn't matter to much. I wouldn't pay a premium for a PCCB equipped car in 2-4 years. If the PCCB would be close to the end of their life I would likely go aftermarket iron. So really up to what you like. Good luck!
#30
I have a GT3 now with cast iron and yellow painted calipers. The cosmetic aspect is easily done.
I guess I'm curious about aftermarket pads. If PCCB is really not worth a premium at resale, it seems like iron is smarter for the use of other pads.
Finally, my initial attraction to PCCB was getting the "best" technology. However, it seems the advantage is marginal, and the cost of ownership large. If folks were saying "You'll get the $9200 back at sale." that would be interesting. It seems like no real advatage with a $9200 loss.
I guess I'm curious about aftermarket pads. If PCCB is really not worth a premium at resale, it seems like iron is smarter for the use of other pads.
Finally, my initial attraction to PCCB was getting the "best" technology. However, it seems the advantage is marginal, and the cost of ownership large. If folks were saying "You'll get the $9200 back at sale." that would be interesting. It seems like no real advatage with a $9200 loss.