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03-27-2014, 03:23 PM
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The amount of money should be directly related to how long the car is out of service. If this thing ended today $10K would be in the ballpark. It would depend on what else is included. But it's not going to end today and could easily last for another month or more.
Credit for merchandise is unacceptable (ok, I might consider sport seats as part of the deal) . Free service in addition to cash compensation and a warranty extension would be something to consider. But ultimately, cash and extended warranty is what would make me most satisfied.
Exactly.
Credit for merchandise is unacceptable (ok, I might consider sport seats as part of the deal) . Free service in addition to cash compensation and a warranty extension would be something to consider. But ultimately, cash and extended warranty is what would make me most satisfied.
Exactly.
03-27-2014, 03:33 PM
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Lol, the sounds of 2 more months and the new 15s popping up shortly after just sounds terribly poor to me. I would so take a refund inc taxes plus 10k right now to just not think about it anymore.
03-27-2014, 03:38 PM
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BTW, I started the car briefly today to relocated it slightly in my garage and work on some different flat spots for the tires. Sounded great, didn't blow up which was good. Damn, I miss driving it....
03-27-2014, 03:41 PM
#425
There is another way to look a this. If they delay telling you what the deal is you hold on to your cars. Once they are close to fixing them they can offer you something minimal or just take them back and sell them. Other wise they would have had to sit on them for several months instead of you. I bet you don't see very much if any cash. You are hoping they do it out of good will. I doubt it. The GT3 buyer is just not that important to them. If we were they would have already done something.
03-27-2014, 03:46 PM
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So would I but I don't think that's going to happen. They don't want to issue refunds so they're not going to give additional money to make it enticing. They should make it enticing (very enticing) to keep the car and bear with them through this and continue to be a Porsche loyalist. I for one would like to come out of this with the car and feeling that I was treated royally by Porsche. Feeling that I actually ended up in a better position then if this never happened. No sign of that so far.
03-27-2014, 03:56 PM
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I think issuing refunds is their best deal. When I passed on my order he resold it in 15 minutes. That guy wasn't even on the list and now he is getting a GT3 in a couple of months. If you give thier car back to them they owe you nothing and they resell it at list. Is 10K at this level that big a deal?
03-27-2014, 04:05 PM
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There is another way to look a this. If they delay telling you what the deal is you hold on to your cars. Once they are close to fixing them they can offer you something minimal or just take them back and sell them. Other wise they would have had to sit on them for several months instead of you. I bet you don't see very much if any cash. You are hoping they do it out of good will. I doubt it. The GT3 buyer is just not that important to them. If we were they would have already done something.
03-27-2014, 04:06 PM
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It will certainly be interesting to see what Porsche ends up doing.
Certainly, those who have taken possession of the car should be reimbursed for any down time. Probably based on a typical lease or loan payment + insurance and registration costs. I would imagine that would be in the $3k to $4k per month range.
I think anything above and beyond that would be a great gesture of good will on the part of Porsche, but I wouldn't expect much more. Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
They will have no problem selling all of these they make, whether a 2014 or 2015. They really have no incentive to give huge rebates, etc. to anyone.
Of course, it's been over 30 days. I suppose a big influx of lemon law claims might light a fire under their backside.
Certainly, those who have taken possession of the car should be reimbursed for any down time. Probably based on a typical lease or loan payment + insurance and registration costs. I would imagine that would be in the $3k to $4k per month range.
I think anything above and beyond that would be a great gesture of good will on the part of Porsche, but I wouldn't expect much more. Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
They will have no problem selling all of these they make, whether a 2014 or 2015. They really have no incentive to give huge rebates, etc. to anyone.
Of course, it's been over 30 days. I suppose a big influx of lemon law claims might light a fire under their backside.
03-27-2014, 04:11 PM
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There is another way to look a this. If they delay telling you what the deal is you hold on to your cars. Once they are close to fixing them they can offer you something minimal or just take them back and sell them. Other wise they would have had to sit on them for several months instead of you. I bet you don't see very much if any cash. You are hoping they do it out of good will. I doubt it. The GT3 buyer is just not that important to them. If we were they would have already done something.
03-27-2014, 04:15 PM
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They would not want you to lemon law the cars. That creates a black mark on the title I believe. I think they will take they back without having to do that. Cars at this level are an emotional decision not a logical one. Looking at it from their side, if they are willing to give you your money back anytime why do they owe you any compensation? A token maybe as a gesture of good will but nothing big.
I like Porsches have owned many and currently own two. I will never try to be an early adopter again.
I like Porsches have owned many and currently own two. I will never try to be an early adopter again.
03-27-2014, 04:26 PM
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It will certainly be interesting to see what Porsche ends up doing.
Certainly, those who have taken possession of the car should be reimbursed for any down time. Probably based on a typical lease or loan payment + insurance and registration costs. I would imagine that would be in the $3k to $4k per month range.
I think anything above and beyond that would be a great gesture of good will on the part of Porsche, but I wouldn't expect much more. Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
They will have no problem selling all of these they make, whether a 2014 or 2015. They really have no incentive to give huge rebates, etc. to anyone.
Of course, it's been over 30 days. I suppose a big influx of lemon law claims might light a fire under their backside.
Certainly, those who have taken possession of the car should be reimbursed for any down time. Probably based on a typical lease or loan payment + insurance and registration costs. I would imagine that would be in the $3k to $4k per month range.
I think anything above and beyond that would be a great gesture of good will on the part of Porsche, but I wouldn't expect much more. Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
They will have no problem selling all of these they make, whether a 2014 or 2015. They really have no incentive to give huge rebates, etc. to anyone.
Of course, it's been over 30 days. I suppose a big influx of lemon law claims might light a fire under their backside.
There is so little we actually know at this point which is why everyone is just spinning their wheels with all of this back and forth.
03-27-2014, 04:26 PM
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They would not want you to lemon law the cars. That creates a black mark on the title I believe. I think they will take they back without having to do that. Cars at this level are an emotional decision not a logical one. Looking at it from their side, if they are willing to give you your money back anytime why do they owe you any compensation? A token maybe as a gesture of good will but nothing big.
I like Porsches have owned many and currently own two. I will never try to be an early adopter again.
I like Porsches have owned many and currently own two. I will never try to be an early adopter again.
I've said this before, but I don't understand why GT3 buyers think they are so special. It's a small number of buyers buying a small number of cars. Look at all the posts here the past month, all of us have owned numerous other brands, not just Porsche. In my town most Porsche buyers fit the same stereotype, middle management guys, soccer moms, guys taking out car payments for their first sports car. GT3 buyers need to get over themselves.
As far as our word of mouth influence, I once believed that. Then I changed Porsche dealers because of service issues. My old dealership is still in town and still selling cars without me. Life moves on.
Porsche will do what is best for their business interest. They have a duty to their shareholders.
03-27-2014, 04:29 PM
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Also, again, speed does not necessarily equate good and proper progress, and I certainly don't feel marginalized just because they're taking time to find resolutions for us. I've waited a very long time for this car. A few weeks, even months won't kill me.
We should all just talk again in two weeks, otherwise we'll just keep going in circles.
