Stop Sale?
02-20-2014, 12:36 PM
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Nick, I have a different view point on this. If it is the fasteners, and an upgrade is to be installed, I want to be part of the recall. You can bet that itch won't come loose again. 
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02-20-2014, 12:48 PM
#380
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02-20-2014, 12:53 PM
#381
Burning Brakes
Further, if the cause is known, why would production be halted? It is halted correct?
02-20-2014, 01:02 PM
#382
By a 991 gt3-owner from Germany who posted this morning in the Rennteam Forum the following:
"I just heard from my dealer that all GT3s delivered to customers so far are being recalled. They will be picked up by truck and transported to the dealership, the strict instruction is not to take the cars there under their own steam. Ostensibly, the problem revolves around a faulty tube link beteen the oil cooler and the engine."
If you want to avoid hearing these reports 'second-hand' at this forum, without the possibility of added spins or alarmist tones, I suggest you visit Rennteam and follow the conversation there directly: http://www.rennteam.com/forum/page1.html?vs=0#post0
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
"I just heard from my dealer that all GT3s delivered to customers so far are being recalled. They will be picked up by truck and transported to the dealership, the strict instruction is not to take the cars there under their own steam. Ostensibly, the problem revolves around a faulty tube link beteen the oil cooler and the engine."
If you want to avoid hearing these reports 'second-hand' at this forum, without the possibility of added spins or alarmist tones, I suggest you visit Rennteam and follow the conversation there directly: http://www.rennteam.com/forum/page1.html?vs=0#post0
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
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02-20-2014, 01:02 PM
#383
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European dealers apparently have more specific information. One of the GT3 owners in Europe was contacted by his dealer and was told they would pick up the car and that the problem is the faulty tube link.
If there is a production halt it is probably related to getting the replacement part. Since only 745 cars appeared to be impacted hopefully getting those parts will not take long. Certainly the manufactured cars will get precedence over cars not yet built.
If there is a production halt it is probably related to getting the replacement part. Since only 745 cars appeared to be impacted hopefully getting those parts will not take long. Certainly the manufactured cars will get precedence over cars not yet built.
02-20-2014, 01:23 PM
#385
Burning Brakes
Well, the official PAG press release attached below states, "Internal studies to determine the cause of the engine damage have not been completed yet." That's a pretty big departure from a known cause and rather unlike Porsche to assert willingly that they do not know the cause.
02-20-2014, 01:44 PM
#387
From Porsche in Atlanta:
Atlanta. The sports car producer Porsche is inspecting all engines of 911 GT3 vehicles of model year 2014. Porsche is informing the owners of the affected vehicles directly and recommending that they stop using their vehicles. The company is offering to pick up the vehicles and take them to a Porsche Centre immediately.
Safety is a number one priority at Porsche, and the company takes its responsibility seriously. After engine damage occurred in two vehicles in Europe and the vehicles then caught fire. Porsche decided to inspect all 785 delivered vehicles worldwide. There was no traffic accident and no personal injure. Internal studies to determine the cause of the engine damage have not been completed yet.
Porsche will report on any new findings immediately.
Atlanta. The sports car producer Porsche is inspecting all engines of 911 GT3 vehicles of model year 2014. Porsche is informing the owners of the affected vehicles directly and recommending that they stop using their vehicles. The company is offering to pick up the vehicles and take them to a Porsche Centre immediately.
Safety is a number one priority at Porsche, and the company takes its responsibility seriously. After engine damage occurred in two vehicles in Europe and the vehicles then caught fire. Porsche decided to inspect all 785 delivered vehicles worldwide. There was no traffic accident and no personal injure. Internal studies to determine the cause of the engine damage have not been completed yet.
Porsche will report on any new findings immediately.
02-20-2014, 02:00 PM
#388
Race Director
Assuming it is a defective tube as some are reporting I will take delivery of the car in a heartbeat. Frankly I am relieved because had it been a replacement piston rod and some other major surgery I was conflicted as to whether I would take the car.
I suspect Porsche is being cautious and those of us who are waiting while the boat docks may not be impacted at all. An inspection in PDI would confirm whether our cars need replacement parts and if not there would be no delay in delivery.
I suspect Porsche is being cautious and those of us who are waiting while the boat docks may not be impacted at all. An inspection in PDI would confirm whether our cars need replacement parts and if not there would be no delay in delivery.
02-20-2014, 02:51 PM
#389
Three Wheelin'
So at this point (correct me if I'm wrong):
1. Porsche may or may not know the root cause.
2. Porsche has stopped delivery of all GT3s globally.
3. Porsche has determined that the threat to life and potential for a class action suit against the manufacturer for replacement cars, injuries, or loss of life is high enough to request all 785 owners across the globe to immediately stop using their cars.
4. Porsche has directed the dealerships to arrange for flatbed towing of all GT3s back to the dealerships.
5. Porsche is arranging for loaner transportation for all 785 owners.
6. Porsche is still examining the 2 cars confirmed to have experienced a fire that started in or near the engine bay.
What we do not know ...
7. Has Porsche stopped GT3 production or are GT3 stacking up like cord wood in Stuttgart?
8. How long will it take to identify the root cause?
9. How long will it take to produce the retrofit kits and accompanying service documentation?
10. Can Porsche dealerships affect the retrofit without factory rep support?
11. How long will it take to distribute the kits, docs and personnel to affect the repairs?
12. How long will the repair take?
13. Depending on the total time for 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 will Porsche provide an extended warranty on GT3s that have already been delivered?
14. If the total time for 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 extends to the point that US customers are meeting thresholds for the lemon law is Porsche going to offer to "buy back" their cars?
I'm keeping my deposit down, but the PAG press release is far from reassuring that things will be quickly resolved.
Ryan
1. Porsche may or may not know the root cause.
2. Porsche has stopped delivery of all GT3s globally.
3. Porsche has determined that the threat to life and potential for a class action suit against the manufacturer for replacement cars, injuries, or loss of life is high enough to request all 785 owners across the globe to immediately stop using their cars.
4. Porsche has directed the dealerships to arrange for flatbed towing of all GT3s back to the dealerships.
5. Porsche is arranging for loaner transportation for all 785 owners.
6. Porsche is still examining the 2 cars confirmed to have experienced a fire that started in or near the engine bay.
What we do not know ...
7. Has Porsche stopped GT3 production or are GT3 stacking up like cord wood in Stuttgart?
8. How long will it take to identify the root cause?
9. How long will it take to produce the retrofit kits and accompanying service documentation?
10. Can Porsche dealerships affect the retrofit without factory rep support?
11. How long will it take to distribute the kits, docs and personnel to affect the repairs?
12. How long will the repair take?
13. Depending on the total time for 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 will Porsche provide an extended warranty on GT3s that have already been delivered?
14. If the total time for 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 extends to the point that US customers are meeting thresholds for the lemon law is Porsche going to offer to "buy back" their cars?
I'm keeping my deposit down, but the PAG press release is far from reassuring that things will be quickly resolved.
Ryan
02-20-2014, 03:06 PM
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