Road and Track first drive: 991 GT3
05-03-2013, 03:33 PM
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Mooty, we are waiting...
No Aero bettle has lasted me more than 24 months. Scud 3 years and counting...
05-03-2013, 03:56 PM
#167
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Respect is earned. He had mine until he (a) did an 11th hour conversion towards what he until recently referred to as "granny paddles"; (b) openly derided those who prefer a MT as "dinosaurs".
05-03-2013, 05:12 PM
#169
Mike,just look on the market and see what the 997.2 GT3/RS are going for... Prices have gone up!!! We're looking at around 20K increase since they've announced the new GT3!
What does that tell you?
This is no joke,even dealers know people want a manual transmission,which make the clean examples of GT3/RS to sell at a premium.
It's been a very long time since I've seen prices going up not down on a car after the new model has been introduced!
Don't trust me,check the market!
What does that tell you?
This is no joke,even dealers know people want a manual transmission,which make the clean examples of GT3/RS to sell at a premium.
It's been a very long time since I've seen prices going up not down on a car after the new model has been introduced!
Don't trust me,check the market!
05-03-2013, 05:15 PM
#170
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Mike,just look on the market and see what the 997.2 GT3/RS are going for... Prices have gone up!!! We're looking at around 20K increase since they've announced the new GT3!
What does that tell you?
This is no joke,even dealers know people want a manual transmission,which make the clean examples of GT3/RS to sell at a premium.
It's been a very long time since I've seen prices going up not down on a car after the new model has been introduced!
Don't trust me,check the market!
What does that tell you?
This is no joke,even dealers know people want a manual transmission,which make the clean examples of GT3/RS to sell at a premium.
It's been a very long time since I've seen prices going up not down on a car after the new model has been introduced!
Don't trust me,check the market!
As to your point, I get that there is unhappiness about the MT issue. Given the fact that it's been repeated a few hundreds of times, I'd have to be pretty dense not to.
I'm not that surprised that prices have temporarily increased on 997 GT cars. It's not the first, nor will it be the last time that a limited commodity spikes on uncertainty. Whether the effect is lasting or not, time will tell. Are you also suggesting that rising prices on the 997 cars means that sales of the 991 GT3 won't meet expectations? If so, that's going to be proven wrong. Just a hunch.(Edit: and zanwar makes some good points above...)
Best,
05-03-2013, 06:10 PM
#171
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neanicu, the issue I was addressing related to comments about how every thread in this forum goes off the rails "into oblivion", as Macca so succinctly put it, and degenerates into a "this sucks, no it doesn't" exchange.
As to your point, I get that there is unhappiness about the MT issue. Given the fact that it's been repeated a few hundreds of times, I'd have to be pretty dense not to.
I'm not that surprised that prices have temporarily increased on 997 GT cars. It's not the first, nor will it be the last time that a limited commodity spikes on uncertainty. Whether the effect is lasting or not, time will tell. Are you also suggesting that rising prices on the 997 cars means that sales of the 991 GT3 won't meet expectations? If so, that's going to be proven wrong. Just a hunch.(Edit: and zanwar makes some good points above...)
Best,
And to answer your question,I'm sure 991 GT3 sales won't be affected,as a matter of fact I think they'll go up since the new car is now targeting more buyers.
05-03-2013, 07:01 PM
#172
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i sure waste plenty bandwidth
but i learned about 7 cup fast. no good for sure.
scud is very very tempting.
for once, ppl would think i actually bought a new car since 2002.
how much are scuds now?
i'll trade my house in.
carlos, send me a pix of you carrying your bike on top of scud like you did with GT2. then i may finally give in.
05-03-2013, 07:05 PM
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05-03-2013, 07:07 PM
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The problem is that no dealer will allow you any sort of test driive to see if in fact the car is great. It is 100% a leap of faith, and many of us here are not convinced the leap is worth it. Sort of like the mislabeled "Affordable Health Care Act", wherein those pushing it said "we have to pass it in order to learn what is in it".
this is why i hang out on 991gt3 board.
i am making new friends who would let me test their gt3
my old friends are well... old, they like three pedal cars.
05-03-2013, 07:09 PM
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05-03-2013, 07:10 PM
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Unfortunately, that is what this forum is going to continue to be like for at least another six months. At that point those who've actually bought cars will have real life experiences to discuss instead of random speculation. And after reaching the 1 million post milestone of "why-I-hate-the-car-because-it-has-no-MT" complete with clever put-downs, the naysayers will finally either retreat to rebuilding whatever Porsche they've decided to keep for the rest of their lives because they can't get the gearbox of their choice in a new one, or will have moved on (godspeed!) to a new Corvette, Z28, Viper, et al.
We just have to wait it out....
We just have to wait it out....
this is just casual bitchin.
i love, how they say in american TV, cliff hangers.
its more fun than actual driving.
05-03-2013, 08:57 PM
#178
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And for the hundreth time, you won't know relatively how much fun/practical/rewarding the 991 GT3 is until you drive it!
And I would never jump on anyone, least of all you, for saying they think a MT is "more fun". a) I've been there and b) it's completely subjective! By contrast, I've seen plenty of snarky comments posted about people who have come to appreciate PDK, either in practice or as a concept.
05-03-2013, 08:57 PM
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love it.
i sure waste plenty bandwidth
but i learned about 7 cup fast. no good for sure.
scud is very very tempting.
for once, ppl would think i actually bought a new car since 2002.
how much are scuds now?
i'll trade my house in.
carlos, send me a pix of you carrying your bike on top of scud like you did with GT2. then i may finally give in.
i sure waste plenty bandwidth
but i learned about 7 cup fast. no good for sure.
scud is very very tempting.
for once, ppl would think i actually bought a new car since 2002.
how much are scuds now?
i'll trade my house in.
carlos, send me a pix of you carrying your bike on top of scud like you did with GT2. then i may finally give in.
help fix bandwidth problem does
05-03-2013, 09:01 PM
#180
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