New 991 GT3 / Exclusive pics and information. The real deal & at last some good news!
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Suspect the current 7sp manual linkage can be converted to sequential since it is already translating movements into triple-H pattern...which is what results in that slightly vague feeling. A neutral/disengage and skip-to-first shortcut would make it even more attractive. pete
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Eduardo
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You know what Chris, I think that I have criticized Porsche's marketing decision to implement these CL wheels in a street car enough, perhaps a bit more than enough.
They are by definition a silly idea to begin with.
No need for timed pit stops = no CLs. Period. No debate.
Furthermore, they are actually heavier, not so fast on a change, not bulletproof and we have them here today because someone made a research, probably suggesting that potential buyers would associate them with race cars from TV and, as a result, Porsche would sell 451,3 more cars per year or something equally disturbing.
I also happen to prefer a manual gearbox over a double clutch or F1 or any other autobox , any day of the week.
Since I am not racing, I don't really care to extract that last second. I just am a below average driver who enjoys the odd B roads and a few track days. No opponents , no winners. No absolute times. Feel over speed.
That being said, and because I kind of understand Porsche's reasoning behind those changes, at this point, I would have settled with both of these features that I loathe, as long as Porsche hadn't decided to save me. A fair exchange I think.
I don't want to be saved! not by Porsche , not by a government, not by the EU, not by a rule, not by anyone.
You want CLs? put them. I'll find a way to deal with it.
You want only PDK? Fine , give me one that does what I want all the time. I want to stall the car, allow me to make a fool of myself.
I want to accelerate in 7th gear from 11mph, let me die in that dual carriageway from the track coming from behind.
In the same spirit;
you want to compete with the GTR in electronics and gismos and the Prius in consumption? Excellent. Do that too, all the better, but please design , develop and build the car with these systems off.
Make it work better than before through pure mechanical advancement, better suspension, less weight, good geometry.
You also want this bloody self correcting electric steering to save the planet , put that one too.
Give me an option to turn it off and make it work with a flat algorithm. No changes in assistance, no help, no corrections, no pulses, nothing. Just fast enough and with some feel from the road if possible.
Put a big skull in a button , a 10 inches tall illuminated danger sign, and allow me to press it on demand.
Also make every single electronic system with an off button. Real off button. Put more danger signs. I like them.
Allow the buyer to choose if he will round the neverbeentherering in 7 minutes with all the systems on or will crash entering Antoniusbuche like an idiot.
Simple.
Now where's that liability waiver, where do I sign and please do make mine in black and with a race proven engine.
Thanks!
They are by definition a silly idea to begin with.
No need for timed pit stops = no CLs. Period. No debate.
Furthermore, they are actually heavier, not so fast on a change, not bulletproof and we have them here today because someone made a research, probably suggesting that potential buyers would associate them with race cars from TV and, as a result, Porsche would sell 451,3 more cars per year or something equally disturbing.
I also happen to prefer a manual gearbox over a double clutch or F1 or any other autobox , any day of the week.
Since I am not racing, I don't really care to extract that last second. I just am a below average driver who enjoys the odd B roads and a few track days. No opponents , no winners. No absolute times. Feel over speed.
That being said, and because I kind of understand Porsche's reasoning behind those changes, at this point, I would have settled with both of these features that I loathe, as long as Porsche hadn't decided to save me. A fair exchange I think.
I don't want to be saved! not by Porsche , not by a government, not by the EU, not by a rule, not by anyone.
You want CLs? put them. I'll find a way to deal with it.
You want only PDK? Fine , give me one that does what I want all the time. I want to stall the car, allow me to make a fool of myself.
I want to accelerate in 7th gear from 11mph, let me die in that dual carriageway from the track coming from behind.
In the same spirit;
you want to compete with the GTR in electronics and gismos and the Prius in consumption? Excellent. Do that too, all the better, but please design , develop and build the car with these systems off.
Make it work better than before through pure mechanical advancement, better suspension, less weight, good geometry.
You also want this bloody self correcting electric steering to save the planet , put that one too.
Give me an option to turn it off and make it work with a flat algorithm. No changes in assistance, no help, no corrections, no pulses, nothing. Just fast enough and with some feel from the road if possible.
Put a big skull in a button , a 10 inches tall illuminated danger sign, and allow me to press it on demand.
Also make every single electronic system with an off button. Real off button. Put more danger signs. I like them.
Allow the buyer to choose if he will round the neverbeentherering in 7 minutes with all the systems on or will crash entering Antoniusbuche like an idiot.
Simple.
Now where's that liability waiver, where do I sign and please do make mine in black and with a race proven engine.
Thanks!
Plenty of other variants already catering for those less interested in the driver involvement... Shame the GT cars may have to face a similar fate...
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@John: please dont forget my private message to you the other day..regarding the user name issue..
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Betcha they did not test those at Sebring, just like the current exhausts!!
Signs of things to come:
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-exhaust-pipes
Signs of things to come:
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-exhaust-pipes
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I don't what it means, but it's ludicrous -- just plain idiotic to have a "recall" and the fanfare of blogosphere all copying the news to hope for their click-thru's -- and not one of those blog news sites bothers to read the stuff they regurgitate and make that simple observation: "oh yeah, these cars will blow up and kill someone, but hell, it's a bit tatty to see one with a wobbly exhaust tip ..."
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From Porsche press release:
"Porsche AG has not only begun the year particularly successful, but 2013 also marks the anniversary of the company's most iconic car: the Porsche 911 has for the last 50 years been equally at home on the racetrack as on the road. Its genetic DNA can be found in every other Porsche model. At over 820,000 units built, the 911 is the world’s most successful sports car ever. In addition to the anniversary, the International Motor Show in Geneva also provides a stage for two particularly sporty premieres on the Porsche stand in hall 1. The press conference on the stand takes place on March 5 at 10.45 CET.
The title ‘World Premiere’ truly applies here to the first appearance of an extremely exciting 911 model, which awaits with new engineering highlights, plus a whole lot more. The car’s driving dynamics and driving excitement are at an even higher level than before. For the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup this will be its first public unveiling. Delivering 460 hp, this single-make cup racer is the latest version of the car, which is, with a total of 2,400 units, the best-selling and most successful sports car in the world. The new 911 GT3 Cup is initially being deployed in the international Porsche Supercup 2013.
http://www.porsche.com/uk/aboutporsc...&id=2013-03-01
"Porsche AG has not only begun the year particularly successful, but 2013 also marks the anniversary of the company's most iconic car: the Porsche 911 has for the last 50 years been equally at home on the racetrack as on the road. Its genetic DNA can be found in every other Porsche model. At over 820,000 units built, the 911 is the world’s most successful sports car ever. In addition to the anniversary, the International Motor Show in Geneva also provides a stage for two particularly sporty premieres on the Porsche stand in hall 1. The press conference on the stand takes place on March 5 at 10.45 CET.
The title ‘World Premiere’ truly applies here to the first appearance of an extremely exciting 911 model, which awaits with new engineering highlights, plus a whole lot more. The car’s driving dynamics and driving excitement are at an even higher level than before. For the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup this will be its first public unveiling. Delivering 460 hp, this single-make cup racer is the latest version of the car, which is, with a total of 2,400 units, the best-selling and most successful sports car in the world. The new 911 GT3 Cup is initially being deployed in the international Porsche Supercup 2013.
http://www.porsche.com/uk/aboutporsc...&id=2013-03-01
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From Porsche press release:
"Porsche AG has not only begun the year particularly successful, but 2013 also marks the anniversary of the company's most iconic car: the Porsche 911 has for the last 50 years been equally at home on the racetrack as on the road. Its genetic DNA can be found in every other Porsche model. At over 820,000 units built, the 911 is the world’s most successful sports car ever. In addition to the anniversary, the International Motor Show in Geneva also provides a stage for two particularly sporty premieres on the Porsche stand in hall 1. The press conference on the stand takes place on March 5 at 10.45 CET.
The title ‘World Premiere’ truly applies here to the first appearance of an extremely exciting 911 model, which awaits with new engineering highlights, plus a whole lot more. The car’s driving dynamics and driving excitement are at an even higher level than before. For the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup this will be its first public unveiling. Delivering 460 hp, this single-make cup racer is the latest version of the car, which is, with a total of 2,400 units, the best-selling and most successful sports car in the world. The new 911 GT3 Cup is initially being deployed in the international Porsche Supercup 2013.
http://www.porsche.com/uk/aboutporsc...&id=2013-03-01
"Porsche AG has not only begun the year particularly successful, but 2013 also marks the anniversary of the company's most iconic car: the Porsche 911 has for the last 50 years been equally at home on the racetrack as on the road. Its genetic DNA can be found in every other Porsche model. At over 820,000 units built, the 911 is the world’s most successful sports car ever. In addition to the anniversary, the International Motor Show in Geneva also provides a stage for two particularly sporty premieres on the Porsche stand in hall 1. The press conference on the stand takes place on March 5 at 10.45 CET.
The title ‘World Premiere’ truly applies here to the first appearance of an extremely exciting 911 model, which awaits with new engineering highlights, plus a whole lot more. The car’s driving dynamics and driving excitement are at an even higher level than before. For the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup this will be its first public unveiling. Delivering 460 hp, this single-make cup racer is the latest version of the car, which is, with a total of 2,400 units, the best-selling and most successful sports car in the world. The new 911 GT3 Cup is initially being deployed in the international Porsche Supercup 2013.
http://www.porsche.com/uk/aboutporsc...&id=2013-03-01
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I think it means the Turbo and GT3 as it seems since they named the Cup, they would have named the GT3 as well if it were those two. That and the TT usually comes out before the GT3 and we have relatively little info on it. The Cup has premiered, it just hasn't been unveiled. If that makes any sense.
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I think it means the Turbo and GT3 as it seems since they named the Cup, they would have named the GT3 as well if it were those two. That and the TT usually comes out before the GT3 and we have relatively little info on it. The Cup has premiered, it just hasn't been unveiled. If that makes any sense.
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I think it means the Turbo and GT3 as it seems since they named the Cup, they would have named the GT3 as well if it were those two. That and the TT usually comes out before the GT3 and we have relatively little info on it. The Cup has premiered, it just hasn't been unveiled. If that makes any sense.
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Thank god they sorted out the styling of that spoiler...
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