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Old 02-28-2013, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
It will give up around 400lbs and at least $40K to a GT3. I think you should order one....
I suspect it won't be 400 lbs. The 991 pdk C4S is 1,465 kg (50kg heavier then the S)
add another 40kg for turbos and your at 1505kg (3318 lbs). I can't see the GT3 being much lighter then a 991S. So my guessing only a 200 lbs difference.
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
It was sterotypical baloney when it was said the first time, and it's still stereotypical baloney. Does that make you both feel better?
You again?



I guess all the nannies, 20's and centerlocks are meant for track guys and racing.


Kind of fits in with your delusion that your 997 is a bigger change from the 996 than the 991 is from your 997..........



LOL.
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
I suspect it won't be 400 lbs. The 991 pdk C4S is 1,465 kg (50kg heavier then the S)
add another 40kg for turbos and your at 1505kg (3318 lbs). I can't see the GT3 being much lighter then a 991S. So my guessing only a 200 lbs difference.
Not sure about that, but I have seen 1350kg for the GT3 somewhere, which would be slightly less than 3000lbs

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Old 02-28-2013, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
I suspect it won't be 400 lbs. The 991 pdk C4S is 1,465 kg (50kg heavier then the S)
add another 40kg for turbos and your at 1505kg (3318 lbs). I can't see the GT3 being much lighter then a 991S. So my guessing only a 200 lbs difference.
The Turbo has a lot more equipment as standard than the "normal" Carreras so it's base weight will be more. It makes more sense to work backwards from the 997 TT than forward from a 991 C4S. The 997 TT had a curb weight of 3510 lbs. If they can knock 100 lbs off of that (they reduced the weight of the 991S by 80 lbs) you're still looking at a 3400+ lb car. The info that's been leaked about the GT3 indicates that they've taken almost 100lbs out of the car from the previous model which will make it around, say, 3000-3050. That's a difference of 350-400 lbs between the TT and GT3. My prediction, anyway.
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I hope it has at least 500 buttons to push in the interior. I always like more buttons
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Originally Posted by wanna911
You again?
I see you still have your winning personality and touch with the language.
Originally Posted by wanna911
I guess all the nannies, 20's and centerlocks are meant for track guys and racing.
Didn't the 997.2 GT cars come with centerlocks? 19's? PASM, ABS, PSM? If the above is your only criteria for track worthy cars, that ship sailed long ago.

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Kind of fits in with your delusion that your 997 is a bigger change from the 996 than the 991 is from your 997..........
I had a first generation 996 for 8 years. I own a 997.2S. The 997 has all new body panels (except for the roof), a heavily revised interior, revised rear suspension, stability management, dynamic suspension control, bigger brakes, dual clutch transmission, and most importantly a completely new DFI powerplant, just to name some of the major items. As I said in the statement you are referencing, a world of difference. The 991 has many changes from the 997, but the heart of the car, the drivetrain, is essentially the same. We can split hairs about different features but your use of the word delusional is, as usual, pure hyperbole.

I'm not sure what this has to do with the new GT3 but thought I'd respond since you brought it up. Always enjoy our interaction....

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Old 02-28-2013, 03:38 PM
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Can we get back to my post of the 911 exhausts still falling off, a real problem opposed to the no problem CL's..

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Originally Posted by Nizer
Cup uses electric motor to drive hydraulic pump if I'm not mistaken - different animal than electric steering on 991.
Correct. But the advantage is still the same, worth it IMO to get all of that hardware and oil lines out of the engine compartment and less mass for the engine to rotate.
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Can we get back to my post of the 911 exhausts still falling off, a real problem opposed to the no problem CL's..

It is only the tips that might fall off LOL

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I am assuming we will finally see the official release either on March 4th or 5th as the press days for Geneva begin on the 5th with the public showing on the 7th.
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Originally Posted by Jon70
I am assuming we will finally see the official release either on March 4th or 5th as the press days for Geneva begin on the 5th with the public showing on the 7th.
Hadn't thought of that. I hope you're right.
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Originally Posted by Leigh2
Correct. But the advantage is still the same, worth it IMO to get all of that hardware and oil lines out of the engine compartment and less mass for the engine to rotate.
It's not even a month that we discussed this again.

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Originally Posted by Jon70
I am assuming we will finally see the official release either on March 4th or 5th as the press days for Geneva begin on the 5th with the public showing on the 7th.
"Rennlist" might be at Geneva with a camera ..
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Originally Posted by 911SLOW
"Rennlist" might be at Geneva with a camera ..
I would expect no less!

Rennlist should get the 1st drive too.
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
I see you still have your winning personality and touch with the language.

Didn't the 997 GT cars come with centerlocks? 19's? PASM, ABS, PSM? If the above is your only criteria for track worthy cars, that ship sailed long ago.

I had a first generation 996 for 8 years. I own a 997.2S. The 997 has all new body panels (except for the roof), a heavily revised interior, revised rear suspension, stability management, dynamic suspension control, bigger brakes, dual clutch transmission, and most importantly a completely new DFI powerplant. As I said in the statement you are referencing, a world of difference. The 991 has many changes from the 997, but the heart of the car, the drivetrain, is essentially the same. We can split hairs about different features but your use of the word delusional is, as usual, pure hyperbole.

I'm not sure what this has to do with the new GT3 but thought I'd respond since you brought it up. Always enjoy our interaction....
They actually make real racing tires for 19's (in lots of sizes too) in case you haven't been to the track lately......

They tricked everyone with the CL gimmick last time, this time people know it's a gimmick and they are still selling it.

PASM, PSM, ABS and.... PDCC, PDK, PTV+, rear steering. The nannies will have doubled. Soon you will have to push a button to fart in your own car as that will be computer controlled as well.

Hahaha, delusion, um yeah, like I said, a 996 with a body kit and and interior. Revised suspension, heavily revised interior? What are you a Porsche salesman? It's the same thing with small revisions and 90% of the suspension parts swap right on over. Meanwhile the 991 has (turn's on saleman voice) a completely new and far lighter chassis, not just a bigger version of the previous one, a MORE heavily revised completely all new interior, significantly bigger wheelbase, far more suspension changes just to name a few. Oh, and while we are at it, let's use some of your nannies against you. PDCC, PTV, rear steering..........

Keep telling yourself that you have a 991 in sheeps clothing all you want. The rest of us will enjoy a good laugh.


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