Yc911Kid

Low mile racing yellow with blk pkg would be a very interesting example to see where the mkt is. His best shot is probably still bat. Hard to imagine someone is willing to pay the 275 ask but in an auction anything could happen.

Yc911Kid

From the dude who spent years on selling his, made my day

Richard_Wallace

Here is a site I use to track the market, does't hit all for sale, but quite a few..

https://www.classic.com/m/porsche/91...12/gt3/touring

You can track nearly any car/model/year, etc. And sends you alerts on when one comes up :-)

DEALKLR911

I have a 991.2 touring that have been considering trading for a 992 in few months. I’m curious to see how the market shakes out. Great cars either way!

hiroshikato1

I was thinking this for a few years. I sold my 991.2 Touring with the hopes of getting a 992.1 Touring. I was offered several winged allocations but my allocation didn’t come through until the end of the run when LWB’s, PTS and PCCB’s were verboten. I finally was also able to drive a manual 992.1 and just felt that the interior would age that well and that the pop out door handles would be an issue in the future.
As a result, I ended up buying another 2019 Touring which is probably what a lot of people are doing. Now that production is over and everyone is waiting for the 992.2 Tourings, I would tend to guess that the 991.2 Touring market will stabilize or go up.
On a side note. I loved my 997.1 GT3 styling, more than the 997.2. I also preferred my GT3 991.1 styling more than the 991.2. Will the 992.1 styling be more to my liking than the 992.2? Obviously the 991R is the perfect blend…

silvertige

Looks like the Ryan Friedman sold. List was 260k.

PorscheStrong

It's hard to see how you justify the 991.2 tourings getting past ~$220-240K, if even there, frankly, unless maybe super low miles, PTS, high MSRP build. It's a splendid car -- I know, I owned a 991.2 GT3 -- but there should be a healthy spread relative to the 992, which is a newer and, strictly in terms of driving capabilities, an objectively superior car. Some of the talk about $250K+ values seems misguided to me -- not far off what I just paid for a delivery-miles 992 GT3T that is a high MSRP build with all the goodies (PTS, LWBS, PCCB, etc.). Don't get me wrong, these are very nice cars, but they're not exactly limited production or special edition cars that have an investment angle, and there's a ton of new stuff that recently hit the market (e.g. GT3, GT3RS, SC) or is forthcoming (e.g. S/T) that isn't in small quantities, either.

cooler2442

I heard they sold the car, then it was available again so we'll see if that happens again.

rk-d

The market does not agree. These aren't numbered cars, but they were limited in absolute volume. Something being "objectively superior" doesn't count for much when we're talking about a street car. Objectively, none of these cars can be taxed to their limits, regardless. One can prefer the 992 to the 991.2, but that's simply preference.

Whether there "should" be a spread between the 992 and 991.2 is also irrelevant. The market indicates a healthy contingent of buyers who simply prefer the overall package of the 991.2 Touring - looks, feel, character. Personally, the looks and overall size of the car was what skewed me to the 991.2 Touring over the 992 Touring.

There is very little justification needed otherwise - the Touring has had stable values well beyond $220k for some time now and has appreciated in value over the past year so it is what it is.

silvertige

Haha, ok, maybe they wised up this time and waited until after the check cleared/ money deposited...

silvertige

You could make the same argument for 991.2 winged vs touring pricing... which many in the past have tried to make. There's much less of that discussion now because the pricing difference has been so obvious over multiple years. The same may happen with the 991.2 vs 992 tourings. But, hey, its all in fun. I agree that mentioning "investment" with these cars is hilarious. No way it even beats an index fund over the next 10 years if you include all the carrying costs.

DodoBrd

show me one example of someone taking an apples to apples spec 991.2 over a 992 for the SAME money… I think you meant to say there is a healthy contigent of buyers who prefer to spend $50k+ less and get the 991

rk-d

I’ll give you the example of myself to start. I have tested the market and a winged GT3 with equivalent spec and miles is closing in on 1:1 on a private sale and probably $10-20k with trade. At this point I would not take that swap.

A 992 GT3 would have to be a special build - PTS and loaded for me to consider moving from my car and even then I’m not sure. I went through this exercise recently and ultimately short of getting a PTS 992 for a steal I just wasn’t interested. In hindsight, I’m even less so.

A 992 Touring I have zero interest, no offense to 992 Touring owners.

$50k delta is very generous IMO

Drifting

there have been several owners, (at least two on RL, and Chris Harris), who owned a 991.2 GT3T, t later purchased a 992 GT3T, and later sold the 992 as they preferred the look, handling, feel, and size of the 991.2 over the 992.

DodoBrd

this is not what I’m saying, would you take the exact spec 991.2 touring over 992 for the same money? Sure, people prefer one over the other but there’s a $50k+ price delta.

Chris Harris never owned one I don’t think… he really wanted one and then cried about it when Porsche wouldn’t give him an allocation. Haha

also, the double wishbone and ITBs are game changers