Originally Posted by Mthrice

First of all, it's not a dreaded reduced power consult workshop warning, that's your ticket to a new engine. Secondly, next time it happens drive it directly to the dealer and don't shut the engine off when you get there.

Originally Posted by johnsopa

I could be wrong, but I don't think a scope can reach into the valvetrain area. My understanding is that the engine needs to be dropped to take the valve cover off to inspect the drivetrain.

Porsche has outlined a procedure that dealers need to follow (spark plugs, coil packs, etc.) before they get approval to drop the engine for inspection of the valvetrain.

Originally Posted by el0designs

Maybe you're right. I have seen posts on RL that mention a quick and easy scope process and then others that mention dropping the motor. For a grand, I would scope the motor.

For 5 grand, as much as I would love to know, I might consider a service contract instead. That's a tough call. If someone at Porsche told me they would drop motor, scope and find FF damage, new motor 100%, I would do it. The concern is drop motor, scope and find no FF damage for 5K. Ouch.

Originally Posted by Cay_PI

I still dont understand... sfnyc, you had the CEL allready, right? There is not much to do in the next 1,5 years. Just drive it to the dealer next time. The error is stored in the ecu. Maybe the clear it and send you away, maybe they switch the ignition coil and let you go... just do it. 2 weeks later you are there again, the error is back and they will drop the engine.

Originally Posted by Cay_PI

I still dont understand... sfnyc, you had the CEL allready, right? There is not much to do in the next 1,5 years. Just drive it to the dealer next time. The error is stored in the ecu. Maybe the clear it and send you away, maybe they switch the ignition coil and let you go... just do it. 2 weeks later you are there again, the error is back and they will drop the engine.

Originally Posted by sfnyc

Yup, will do. Most of my drives are weekends so dealer not open, but now going to be driving weekdays more so will be sure to keep stressing the car.

Originally Posted by johnsopa

Remember you don't need the CEL to be active, once it is displayed, it is stored even if the CEL disappears. The dealer will be able to read that, then might try moving coil packs/spark plugs, then send you out again. Once the CEL is determined to not be tied to a bad plug or coil, they will likely request permission from Porsche to drop the engine to check the followers.

Originally Posted by sfnyc

Yeah that's what I thought, at least check the coils. Unfortunately they refused to do any of that. They admitted the code is there but they only drove it for a mile to try to reproduce it; they said they can't so they stopped and didn't do anything further. Kinda annoying as the car was there for 12 days and that's all they did. They asked me if I want their mechanic to keep driving the car more to reproduce the code and I said no as I can do it myself. I sent a message to corporate to see what else they will authorize

Originally Posted by el0designs

Maybe you're right. I have seen posts on RL that mention a quick and easy scope process and then others that mention dropping the motor. For a grand, I would scope the motor.

For 5 grand, as much as I would love to know, I might consider a service contract instead. That's a tough call. If someone at Porsche told me they would drop motor, scope and find FF damage, new motor 100%, I would do it. The concern is drop motor, scope and find no FF damage for 5K. Ouch.

Originally Posted by johnsopa

That's terrible. Are you in SF or NYC?

My engine failed catastrophically earlier this month. Dealer had approval to drop engine the day after I dropped it off. Had an engine ordered the next day or two. New engine air freighted in two days later.

Originally Posted by sfnyc

Yeah that's what I thought, at least check the coils. Unfortunately they refused to do any of that. They admitted the code is there but they only drove it for a mile to try to reproduce it; they said they can't so they stopped and didn't do anything further. Kinda annoying as the car was there for 12 days and that's all they did. They asked me if I want their mechanic to keep driving the car more to reproduce the code and I said no as I can do it myself. I sent a message to corporate to see what else they will authorize

Originally Posted by itrsteve

I apologize for being an annoying broken record about this one but there's a surefire way to get the fault to trigger which doesn't put your car at risk of being wrecked.

Find a quiet, straight road. In 2nd gear and slowly get it up to redline at partial throttle and don't let it drop below 8500. It comes back quickly.

Originally Posted by sfnyc

I have a 2015 GT3 F engine with about 22K, mostly spirited driving and couple track days. Recently at 8500 rpm on a spirited drive got the dreaded "reduced power consult workshop" code. it went away after restart and hasn't come back. Brought to Fremont Porsche which has good reputation and they have not been able to reproduce. Nothing else done, they just drove it around at high RPM. Concerns me though. I will obviously keep driving like mad but they are telling me that if they cannot reproduce it in the shop they won't do further testing under warranty.

I'm a lawyer by training but now doing something else, but I wonder about Porsche's liability in cars that continue to have these fire codes and Porsche doesn't do anything and then something happens to our cars after the warranty ends (mind is end 2024). I certainly would consult a lawyer if this were to happen b/c it could be argued there were warnings. I'm not paying for any extended warranty or engine check as I think this is Porsche's responsibility.

What do people think?