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Old 10-14-2020, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by closer98
Good News! Porsche NA gave the green light to replace the motor. Thanks to David D. the Service Manager of my dealership and Shinetta at Porsche NA. Hopefully it all goes smoothly. I'll keep you all posted once I get it back.
awesome!
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Old 10-14-2020, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by darth g-f
As a guy on the fence between .1RS and .2GT3, I think it's good that Porsche is doing the right thing. However, I thought the .2GT3 engine was bomb proof. It seems no GT3 engine really is bomb proof.

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If you look back in history just about every performance Porsche has some-type of engine issue.
There is no bombproof engine. If you spin a motor to high RPM overtime something is going to give.
The .1 and .2 RS is no different.

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Old 10-14-2020, 11:26 PM
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Good news!
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by GrantG;[url=[url
tel:16965024]16965024]Any[/url] time you build thousands of any engine, they are not all going to be perfect...
I know, but the general feeling I get from this forum is .1gt3 engine bad .2gt3 engine awesome. It’s just that dropping a valve is what killed the LS7 reputation in the c6 Z06. Great car, fragile engine. Valve dropping is bad.

Originally Posted by ipse dixit;[url=[url
tel:16965609]16965609]Engines[/url], like all mechanical things, break.

It's not that something breaks, it's what happens after that particular something breaks.

And as for Porsche, it generally has been pretty good (IMS notwithstanding).
That’s why I’m happy for both the op and us owners/future owners.

Originally Posted by flyjets;[url=[url
tel:16965653]16965653]Funny[/url]
If you look back in history just about every performance Porsche has some-type of engine issue.
There is no bombproof engine. If you spin a motor to high RPM overtime something is going to give.
The .1 and .2 RS is no different.

Ian
No engine is perfect all the time. But the Metzger was pretty darn reliable.

General comment not directed at anybody, I had pretty much ruled out the .gt3, but that 10year warranty sounds damn good right about now. Especially with comments hinting there might be more .2 engine failures as reported by posters on this thread.

I keep in mind that forums are where people go when they have problems too. But I also plan on getting an extended warranty for peace of mind.

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Old 10-15-2020, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by closer98
Good News! Porsche NA gave the green light to replace the motor. Thanks to David D. the Service Manager of my dealership and Shinetta at Porsche NA. Hopefully it all goes smoothly. I'll keep you all posted once I get it back.
Congrats! Hopefully, everything is going smoothly and perfectly with your car! BTW, what was the problem causing your engine failure?
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Old 10-15-2020, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by lfish
Glad to hear! I'd like to think Rennlist was a positive factor in PCNA's decision to provide a new replacement engine.
May I ask what if this happens in Taiwan and then, I bring this matter to Rennlist? Will PAG does the same to our region?
Old 10-15-2020, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by darth g-f
I know, but the general feeling I get from this forum is .1gt3 engine bad .2gt3 engine awesome. It’s just that dropping a valve is what killed the LS7 reputation in the c6 Z06. Great car, fragile engine. Valve dropping is bad.



That’s why I’m happy for both the op and us owners/future owners.



No engine is perfect all the time. But the Metzger was pretty darn reliable.

General comment not directed at anybody, I had pretty much ruled out the .gt3, but that 10year warranty sounds damn good right about now. Especially with comments hinting there might be more .2 engine failures as reported by posters on this thread.

I keep in mind that forums are where people go when they have problems too. But I also plan on getting an extended warranty for peace of mind.
Far from perfect. Mezger engine seems to have an inherent harmonic issue where the cam actuator bolts back out over time causing engine to fail. There is no permanent fix, temporary fix is in the range of $10,000-$15,000. I wouldnt call it reliable. This issue happens to every engine, some sooner some later. RS models are far more prone due to lightweight flywheel making harmonic issue worse.
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Old 10-15-2020, 10:50 AM
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Subscribed as well.

Any modifications or extensive track days they are trying to hang on?
Good luck we have found PCNA to be stand up and a high level of integrity so I bet it will be handled to your satisfaction. All the best
Nope. No mods or extensive track days.
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Originally Posted by darth g-f
I know, but the general feeling I get from this forum is .1gt3 engine bad .2gt3 engine awesome. It’s just that dropping a valve is what killed the LS7 reputation in the c6 Z06. Great car, fragile engine. Valve dropping is bad.



That’s why I’m happy for both the op and us owners/future owners.



No engine is perfect all the time. But the Metzger was pretty darn reliable.

General comment not directed at anybody, I had pretty much ruled out the .gt3, but that 10year warranty sounds damn good right about now. Especially with comments hinting there might be more .2 engine failures as reported by posters on this thread.

I keep in mind that forums are where people go when they have problems too. But I also plan on getting an extended warranty for peace of mind.
Agree on the Metzger! my 997 GT3 was a brute and never had any issues.
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Originally Posted by s4corrado996tt
Congrats! Hopefully, everything is going smoothly and perfectly with your car! BTW, what was the problem causing your engine failure?
Dropped a valve.
Old 10-15-2020, 06:46 PM
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Default 991.2 GT3 cylinder scoring.

Just curious whether anyone has experienced this? Not an uncommon problem in other models of Porsche.,
Old 10-16-2020, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by closer98
Nope. No mods or extensive track days.
but it's been track, yes ... at least once ?

Happy for you PCNA is piping up on a new motor. Very glad they're doing this and congrats!!

Also, Not to open up a can of more worms, but am curious if this will follow another engine alphabet soup on the new motor replacement just like the .1 did.
Old 10-16-2020, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by closer98
Agree on the Metzger! my 997 GT3 was a brute and never had any issues.
not true...many RS 4.p motors grenaded when they came out

for as limited as they were is was shocking

I know of one that’s on its third motor



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Old 10-16-2020, 03:06 PM
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If he meant the 997.1 GT3 3.6 Mezger, indeed it was fairly bullet proof (except for the lines unglueing). Never had any issues with mine and it was heavily tracked. As well as others that had the same model at the track.
I remember the Porsche mechanic at the dealer telling me not to trade it in as he felt it was the most reliable track car Porsche made..
My 4.0 Gt3 991.2 also lives mostly at the track, 3rd season and it hasn't skipped a beat... And there are close to 20 of us with the 4.0 at track days.
We'll see

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Old 10-16-2020, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dino524
If he meant the 997.1 GT3 3.6 Mezger, indeed it was fairly bullet proof (except for the lines unglueing). Never had any issues with mine and it was heavily tracked. As well as others that had the same model at the track.
I remember the Porsche mechanic at the dealer telling me not to trade it in as he felt it was the most reliable track car Porsche made..
My 4.0 Gt3 991.2 also lives mostly at the track, 3rd season and it hasn't skipped a beat... And there are close to 20 of us with the 4.0 at track days.
We'll see
It was a 997.1 GT3


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