The 991 GT3/RS Cars For Sale Thread...
#7381
Buckets give so much character to the car. If I could mount them in my cayenne, I would.
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#7383
#7385
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Anyone have any dealings with Pacific Auto Center in Costa Mesa California??... I was looking at a Signal Green 2015 GT3 they had, but was leery because of so, so so many bad reviews
Well, now I realize why they had so many bad reviews online.
Spent 3 days (earlier this week) texting, emailing etc about a 2015 Porsche GT3, we finally reached a deal on price, basically full retail, (or even more) ....they sent me wire info, I sent back my drivers license, salesman said he'd prepare all the paperwork, It was a cash deal.... I lined up a carrier from California to Ohio, 2 hours later I get text from the salesman indicating the "owner" has to approve all deals and he denied this deal!...... So the "owner" denied selling a 2015 GT3 with 12k miles, for about $152k?, no response, asked for the "owners" name..No response, ...told him to tell the "owner" to contact me...No response
I then discovered they had so many bad reviews with the Better Business Bureau, they had an F rating (that's pretty hard to do) and were obviously not BBB accredited
All along, I was super vigilant, because I'm 2,000 miles away and their reviews were bad...although in 40+ years of buying over 150 cars, I've bought many sight unseen with virtually no problems, I have never had this situation occur.
Just discovered the possible reason...all along the ads indicated "contact dealer for price", they told me $153,995 was the asking price...we agreed last night and this morning by text on $151,995.
Then the car was listed yesterday at $157,995 on Autotrader.
I texted my salesman and said I might pay the new price of $157,995....a response came in literally in 5 MINUTES via text by the salesman, and a phone call from a "manager" came 2 minutes later willing to take a deposit over the phone instantly., no signed contract or anything, but NOW they are willing to take a deposit!
I told him I would only deal with the owner since I felt if he could cancel a deal that was already agreed to, he was the ONLY one that could actually make a deal.. Asked for his name, I was told "Joe"...I asked for "Joe's" last name and are you ready for his response???
"I've worked here for 10 years and I don't know his last name...only know him as Joe"
I also tried to cover by butt by having a friend who owns a group of dealerships buy the car, and then sell it to me, The manager said ...we don't sell to dealers period! He kept saying we don't do wholesale deals, I kept telling him, if he gets the dollars he wants, what is the difference WHO buys the car? I kept saying that's not a "wholesale" deal if you're getting "retail" money....all he kept saying is we will not sell to dealers
HOW do places like this still exist?
Well, now I realize why they had so many bad reviews online.
Spent 3 days (earlier this week) texting, emailing etc about a 2015 Porsche GT3, we finally reached a deal on price, basically full retail, (or even more) ....they sent me wire info, I sent back my drivers license, salesman said he'd prepare all the paperwork, It was a cash deal.... I lined up a carrier from California to Ohio, 2 hours later I get text from the salesman indicating the "owner" has to approve all deals and he denied this deal!...... So the "owner" denied selling a 2015 GT3 with 12k miles, for about $152k?, no response, asked for the "owners" name..No response, ...told him to tell the "owner" to contact me...No response
I then discovered they had so many bad reviews with the Better Business Bureau, they had an F rating (that's pretty hard to do) and were obviously not BBB accredited
All along, I was super vigilant, because I'm 2,000 miles away and their reviews were bad...although in 40+ years of buying over 150 cars, I've bought many sight unseen with virtually no problems, I have never had this situation occur.
Just discovered the possible reason...all along the ads indicated "contact dealer for price", they told me $153,995 was the asking price...we agreed last night and this morning by text on $151,995.
Then the car was listed yesterday at $157,995 on Autotrader.
I texted my salesman and said I might pay the new price of $157,995....a response came in literally in 5 MINUTES via text by the salesman, and a phone call from a "manager" came 2 minutes later willing to take a deposit over the phone instantly., no signed contract or anything, but NOW they are willing to take a deposit!
I told him I would only deal with the owner since I felt if he could cancel a deal that was already agreed to, he was the ONLY one that could actually make a deal.. Asked for his name, I was told "Joe"...I asked for "Joe's" last name and are you ready for his response???
"I've worked here for 10 years and I don't know his last name...only know him as Joe"
I also tried to cover by butt by having a friend who owns a group of dealerships buy the car, and then sell it to me, The manager said ...we don't sell to dealers period! He kept saying we don't do wholesale deals, I kept telling him, if he gets the dollars he wants, what is the difference WHO buys the car? I kept saying that's not a "wholesale" deal if you're getting "retail" money....all he kept saying is we will not sell to dealers
HOW do places like this still exist?
#7386
Anyone have any dealings with Pacific Auto Center in Costa Mesa California??... I was looking at a Signal Green 2015 GT3 they had, but was leery because of so, so so many bad reviews
Well, now I realize why they had so many bad reviews online.
Spent 3 days (earlier this week) texting, emailing etc about a 2015 Porsche GT3, we finally reached a deal on price, basically full retail, (or even more) ....they sent me wire info, I sent back my drivers license, salesman said he'd prepare all the paperwork, It was a cash deal.... I lined up a carrier from California to Ohio, 2 hours later I get text from the salesman indicating the "owner" has to approve all deals and he denied this deal!...... So the "owner" denied selling a 2015 GT3 with 12k miles, for about $152k?, no response, asked for the "owners" name..No response, ...told him to tell the "owner" to contact me...No response
I then discovered they had so many bad reviews with the Better Business Bureau, they had an F rating (that's pretty hard to do) and were obviously not BBB accredited
All along, I was super vigilant, because I'm 2,000 miles away and their reviews were bad...although in 40+ years of buying over 150 cars, I've bought many sight unseen with virtually no problems, I have never had this situation occur.
Just discovered the possible reason...all along the ads indicated "contact dealer for price", they told me $153,995 was the asking price...we agreed last night and this morning by text on $151,995.
Then the car was listed yesterday at $157,995 on Autotrader.
I texted my salesman and said I might pay the new price of $157,995....a response came in literally in 5 MINUTES via text by the salesman, and a phone call from a "manager" came 2 minutes later willing to take a deposit over the phone instantly., no signed contract or anything, but NOW they are willing to take a deposit!
I told him I would only deal with the owner since I felt if he could cancel a deal that was already agreed to, he was the ONLY one that could actually make a deal.. Asked for his name, I was told "Joe"...I asked for "Joe's" last name and are you ready for his response???
"I've worked here for 10 years and I don't know his last name...only know him as Joe"
I also tried to cover by butt by having a friend who owns a group of dealerships buy the car, and then sell it to me, The manager said ...we don't sell to dealers period! He kept saying we don't do wholesale deals, I kept telling him, if he gets the dollars he wants, what is the difference WHO buys the car? I kept saying that's not a "wholesale" deal if you're getting "retail" money....all he kept saying is we will not sell to dealers
HOW do places like this still exist?
Well, now I realize why they had so many bad reviews online.
Spent 3 days (earlier this week) texting, emailing etc about a 2015 Porsche GT3, we finally reached a deal on price, basically full retail, (or even more) ....they sent me wire info, I sent back my drivers license, salesman said he'd prepare all the paperwork, It was a cash deal.... I lined up a carrier from California to Ohio, 2 hours later I get text from the salesman indicating the "owner" has to approve all deals and he denied this deal!...... So the "owner" denied selling a 2015 GT3 with 12k miles, for about $152k?, no response, asked for the "owners" name..No response, ...told him to tell the "owner" to contact me...No response
I then discovered they had so many bad reviews with the Better Business Bureau, they had an F rating (that's pretty hard to do) and were obviously not BBB accredited
All along, I was super vigilant, because I'm 2,000 miles away and their reviews were bad...although in 40+ years of buying over 150 cars, I've bought many sight unseen with virtually no problems, I have never had this situation occur.
Just discovered the possible reason...all along the ads indicated "contact dealer for price", they told me $153,995 was the asking price...we agreed last night and this morning by text on $151,995.
Then the car was listed yesterday at $157,995 on Autotrader.
I texted my salesman and said I might pay the new price of $157,995....a response came in literally in 5 MINUTES via text by the salesman, and a phone call from a "manager" came 2 minutes later willing to take a deposit over the phone instantly., no signed contract or anything, but NOW they are willing to take a deposit!
I told him I would only deal with the owner since I felt if he could cancel a deal that was already agreed to, he was the ONLY one that could actually make a deal.. Asked for his name, I was told "Joe"...I asked for "Joe's" last name and are you ready for his response???
"I've worked here for 10 years and I don't know his last name...only know him as Joe"
I also tried to cover by butt by having a friend who owns a group of dealerships buy the car, and then sell it to me, The manager said ...we don't sell to dealers period! He kept saying we don't do wholesale deals, I kept telling him, if he gets the dollars he wants, what is the difference WHO buys the car? I kept saying that's not a "wholesale" deal if you're getting "retail" money....all he kept saying is we will not sell to dealers
HOW do places like this still exist?
#7387
Anyone have any dealings with Pacific Auto Center in Costa Mesa California??... I was looking at a Signal Green 2015 GT3 they had, but was leery because of so, so so many bad reviews
Well, now I realize why they had so many bad reviews online.
Spent 3 days (earlier this week) texting, emailing etc about a 2015 Porsche GT3, we finally reached a deal on price, basically full retail, (or even more) ....they sent me wire info, I sent back my drivers license, salesman said he'd prepare all the paperwork, It was a cash deal.... I lined up a carrier from California to Ohio, 2 hours later I get text from the salesman indicating the "owner" has to approve all deals and he denied this deal!...... So the "owner" denied selling a 2015 GT3 with 12k miles, for about $152k?, no response, asked for the "owners" name..No response, ...told him to tell the "owner" to contact me...No response
I then discovered they had so many bad reviews with the Better Business Bureau, they had an F rating (that's pretty hard to do) and were obviously not BBB accredited
All along, I was super vigilant, because I'm 2,000 miles away and their reviews were bad...although in 40+ years of buying over 150 cars, I've bought many sight unseen with virtually no problems, I have never had this situation occur.
Just discovered the possible reason...all along the ads indicated "contact dealer for price", they told me $153,995 was the asking price...we agreed last night and this morning by text on $151,995.
Then the car was listed yesterday at $157,995 on Autotrader.
I texted my salesman and said I might pay the new price of $157,995....a response came in literally in 5 MINUTES via text by the salesman, and a phone call from a "manager" came 2 minutes later willing to take a deposit over the phone instantly., no signed contract or anything, but NOW they are willing to take a deposit!
I told him I would only deal with the owner since I felt if he could cancel a deal that was already agreed to, he was the ONLY one that could actually make a deal.. Asked for his name, I was told "Joe"...I asked for "Joe's" last name and are you ready for his response???
"I've worked here for 10 years and I don't know his last name...only know him as Joe"
I also tried to cover by butt by having a friend who owns a group of dealerships buy the car, and then sell it to me, The manager said ...we don't sell to dealers period! He kept saying we don't do wholesale deals, I kept telling him, if he gets the dollars he wants, what is the difference WHO buys the car? I kept saying that's not a "wholesale" deal if you're getting "retail" money....all he kept saying is we will not sell to dealers
HOW do places like this still exist?
Well, now I realize why they had so many bad reviews online.
Spent 3 days (earlier this week) texting, emailing etc about a 2015 Porsche GT3, we finally reached a deal on price, basically full retail, (or even more) ....they sent me wire info, I sent back my drivers license, salesman said he'd prepare all the paperwork, It was a cash deal.... I lined up a carrier from California to Ohio, 2 hours later I get text from the salesman indicating the "owner" has to approve all deals and he denied this deal!...... So the "owner" denied selling a 2015 GT3 with 12k miles, for about $152k?, no response, asked for the "owners" name..No response, ...told him to tell the "owner" to contact me...No response
I then discovered they had so many bad reviews with the Better Business Bureau, they had an F rating (that's pretty hard to do) and were obviously not BBB accredited
All along, I was super vigilant, because I'm 2,000 miles away and their reviews were bad...although in 40+ years of buying over 150 cars, I've bought many sight unseen with virtually no problems, I have never had this situation occur.
Just discovered the possible reason...all along the ads indicated "contact dealer for price", they told me $153,995 was the asking price...we agreed last night and this morning by text on $151,995.
Then the car was listed yesterday at $157,995 on Autotrader.
I texted my salesman and said I might pay the new price of $157,995....a response came in literally in 5 MINUTES via text by the salesman, and a phone call from a "manager" came 2 minutes later willing to take a deposit over the phone instantly., no signed contract or anything, but NOW they are willing to take a deposit!
I told him I would only deal with the owner since I felt if he could cancel a deal that was already agreed to, he was the ONLY one that could actually make a deal.. Asked for his name, I was told "Joe"...I asked for "Joe's" last name and are you ready for his response???
"I've worked here for 10 years and I don't know his last name...only know him as Joe"
I also tried to cover by butt by having a friend who owns a group of dealerships buy the car, and then sell it to me, The manager said ...we don't sell to dealers period! He kept saying we don't do wholesale deals, I kept telling him, if he gets the dollars he wants, what is the difference WHO buys the car? I kept saying that's not a "wholesale" deal if you're getting "retail" money....all he kept saying is we will not sell to dealers
HOW do places like this still exist?
#7388
Rennlist Member
The real question is how do people like you still do what you do? You are bending over backward on a 8 year old car with an engine that has a big uncertainty beyond next year. I would never pay $157,000 for that car (and the fact that it has 12k miles is absurd for that price). You can get a 991.2 GT3 for a little bit more. You can do so much better.
Actually the 10 yr warranty on that car has a little over 2 years left, I had been looking for a PTS green, how many of those exist?, and I would drive it for a year or so and then sell it. Someone will definitely buy it at close to that price, If you look at most sites, Manheim (which I have access to) Autotrader, Hemmings, Cars.com, etc etc, most with decently low miles are going in the $140-$150k range
#7389
Wow...thanks for the compliment !
Actually the 10 yr warranty on that car has a little over 2 years left, I had been looking for a PTS green, how many of those exist?, and I would drive it for a year or so and then sell it. Someone will definitely buy it at close to that price, If you look at most sites, Manheim (which I have access to) Autotrader, Hemmings, Cars.com, etc etc, most with decently low miles are going in the $140-$150k range
Actually the 10 yr warranty on that car has a little over 2 years left, I had been looking for a PTS green, how many of those exist?, and I would drive it for a year or so and then sell it. Someone will definitely buy it at close to that price, If you look at most sites, Manheim (which I have access to) Autotrader, Hemmings, Cars.com, etc etc, most with decently low miles are going in the $140-$150k range
#7390
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I was there yesterday to check out the car. I’m surprised you went for it at $153k because it’s pretty low optioned (no full leather, 4 ways, etc) but either way, I saw the initial ask and then he said the owner came out the top and raised the price which is why it was pulled from under you. I sat down to negotiate. I offered $150 and he said $156 which was $1k off the ask when it was initially listed at $153 before I came into the door. I walked out. Such a waste of time.
#7391
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Using your theory, NO 2014-2016 GT3's should be selling at all!
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#7393
Racer
#7394
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https://www.porschecoloradosprings.c...co-id-47545009
#7395
This is a Porsche dealer, Carmine Red Canadian touring, well appointed although no FAL, 8K miles, asking $210K:
https://www.porschecoloradosprings.c...co-id-47545009
https://www.porschecoloradosprings.c...co-id-47545009
Last edited by Bruce911_; 05-13-2023 at 11:24 PM.