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Old 12-10-2022, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
Saw this car maybe a month ago when I visited my dad up north.

The red wheels and graphics look atrocious tbh and keeping that wing up should be illegal (which the dealer still had up), but it just didn't look good in person.

I LOVE 911 R's...but this one just looked so meh, couldn't really tell you why...Maybe if they repainted the wheels silver and took the goofball graphics off and lowered the wing...

If it looked really good....some rich dude in Carmel/monterey would have just bought it, it has been sitting awhile.
What I don’t get is why the radio delete and A/C delete? I understand doing that in a track focused car but how many people are pounding their tourings around a track? So what’s the point in shaving the few pounds to gain the few seconds the car will never see? Seems like the convenience of the radio and A/C far outweighs the savings in weight. The appeal to the 911r or touring for me is that wonderful engine coupled to a car that I can enjoy with out going full throttle. I’m not chasing seconds when I’m road driving, I’m chasing memories to be had. Thus, leave me the small luxuries to enjoy those mountain roads comfortably without sweating and having hands off with my phone when I’m not using the stereo.
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Old 12-10-2022, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jp884
I’m not chasing seconds when I’m road driving, I’m chasing memories to be had. Thus, leave me the small luxuries to enjoy those mountain roads comfortably...
Well said.
Old 12-10-2022, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BergGt3
I work for a dealer and you need your license to buy at wholesale auctions. Typically 4.5-5.0 is the condition you want.

Dealers have varying margins depending on many factors.

Some dealers will be taking losses or very little margin on some recent purchases too close to retail, unless they find non researched buyers… or ones that were purchased 6mo ago and still holding on and hoping.

typically dealers that only do consignment have 5-12% commissions on the sale.

Dealers that buy their inventory take more risk and output capital thus “try” for higher margins 10-20% however with the market changing so quickly that is a risky play. In addition, they have costs to overcome such as overhead, sales commission, detail, service, marketing etc.

A trade last week for a 10k mi gt3 was at $170k. It’s listed for $213k. 43k total mark up with likely costs of $5k service, $8k pac, $5k OH. So total net profit of sold at list is $25k.
Thanks. Very informative.
Old 12-10-2022, 07:39 AM
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How long before 991.1 GT3's are back to ~$100k? Market seems to be softening quickly on GT cars across the board.

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Old 12-10-2022, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by pputkowski
How long before 991.1 GT3's are back to ~$100k? Market seems to be softening quickly on GT cars across the board.
I better sell my Touring quickly before it’s worthless! Prices on everything from cars to watches have begun to normalize again. On second thought maybe I’ll just go for a drive putting more miles on my car and try to enjoy myself without being so concerned about value. That’s why I bought the car. I still remember the good old days when we were more interested in the car itself and not what it will be worth tomorrow or next month. These value threads are getting a little tiresome. I know I don’t have to click on them, Just can’t help myself sometimes.
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Old 12-10-2022, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BergGt3
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Old 12-10-2022, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce911_
I better sell my Touring quickly before it’s worthless! Prices on everything from cars to watches have begun to normalize again. On second thought maybe I’ll just go for a drive putting more miles on my car and try to enjoy myself without being so concerned about value. That’s why I bought the car. I still remember the good old days when we were more interested in the car itself and not what it will be worth tomorrow or next month. These value threads are getting a little tiresome. I know I don’t have to click on them, Just can’t help myself sometimes.
Trust me I'm only asking because that's the budget I have planned to buy one, ha!
Old 12-10-2022, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
Saw this car maybe a month ago when I visited my dad up north.

The red wheels and graphics look atrocious tbh and keeping that wing up should be illegal (which the dealer still had up), but it just didn't look good in person.

I LOVE 911 R's...but this one just looked so meh, couldn't really tell you why...Maybe if they repainted the wheels silver and took the goofball graphics off and lowered the wing...

If it looked really good....some rich dude in Carmel/monterey would have just bought it, it has been sitting awhile.
Those wheels are criminal. Amazing how a simple thing can ruin the looks of a car.
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Old 12-10-2022, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by pputkowski
Trust me I'm only asking because that's the budget I have planned to buy one, ha!
I get it, If and when that happens probably talking about a 2014 with miles, not that there’s anything wrong with that as long as the car checks out. Good luck on your search!
Old 12-10-2022, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce911_
I get it, If and when that happens probably talking about a 2014 with miles, not that there’s anything wrong with that as long as the car checks out. Good luck on your search!
Thats available right now - there are ~50 white 2014s for sale in the US for 130 - start emailing with 100k and youll have one within 2 weeks.

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Old 12-10-2022, 12:49 PM
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If you can get a 2014 with a G6 below $130K that will be a great deal. These cars aren't bitcoin - they are still Porsche 911s and GT3s to boot - they aren't going to plunge in value even if they soften along with the economy. The problem with getting a G6 car from a dealer is that if they actually know what that means they also probably actually won't let it go for a lower offer, but it's worth a shot if you are willing to do the legwork and not really worry about the miles and condition once you find the car. I personally don't want the GT3 you can get for 100K right now but maybe in 6 months or a year I will.
Old 12-10-2022, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 74goldtarga
If you can get a 2014 with a G6 below $130K that will be a great deal. These cars aren't bitcoin - they are still Porsche 911s and GT3s to boot - they aren't going to plunge in value even if they soften along with the economy. The problem with getting a G6 car from a dealer is that if they actually know what that means they also probably actually won't let it go for a lower offer, but it's worth a shot if you are willing to do the legwork and not really worry about the miles and condition once you find the car. I personally don't want the GT3 you can get for 100K right now but maybe in 6 months or a year I will.
search Facebook marketplace if you want one - I paid 77k for my last gt3 they are a bit like bit coin

100 for a early 991.1 is a good value imo

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Old 12-10-2022, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 74goldtarga
If you can get a 2014 with a G6 below $130K that will be a great deal. These cars aren't bitcoin - they are still Porsche 911s and GT3s to boot - they aren't going to plunge in value even if they soften along with the economy. The problem with getting a G6 car from a dealer is that if they actually know what that means they also probably actually won't let it go for a lower offer, but it's worth a shot if you are willing to do the legwork and not really worry about the miles and condition once you find the car. I personally don't want the GT3 you can get for 100K right now but maybe in 6 months or a year I will.
It's inevitable the non-G6 cars will plunge in value as they start to fall out of warranty.
Old 12-10-2022, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 74goldtarga
If you can get a 2014 with a G6 below $130K that will be a great deal. These cars aren't bitcoin - they are still Porsche 911s and GT3s to boot - they aren't going to plunge in value even if they soften along with the economy. The problem with getting a G6 car from a dealer is that if they actually know what that means they also probably actually won't let it go for a lower offer, but it's worth a shot if you are willing to do the legwork and not really worry about the miles and condition once you find the car. I personally don't want the GT3 you can get for 100K right now but maybe in 6 months or a year I will.
Dude only an idiot would pay above 115k for a 14 even with a G motor. LOL straight craziness.

Those cars pre covid were trading for between 110-130(with virtually no miles).= max
Old 12-10-2022, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rk-d
Those wheels are criminal. Amazing how a simple thing can ruin the looks of a car.
Well more than half of 997.2 3rs have wheels painted like that


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