HpIzKing

Gator1971’s beautiful PTS 991.1 3RS that was listed in RL classified this week sold in 48 hrs as one would expect— but ugh it went to the Lawrence Motorsport dealer in Scottsdale. Can’t wait to see the “new” value added price

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Ro_Ja Boy

Pretty sure they bought a car last week a day before I was supposed to go buy it.

atlrvr

I think the above illustrates the value of a dealer. As a seller, I typically list my cars on Autotrader as private party. I've sold cars to dealers and individuals. Dealers ask few questions, pay immediately, and pick up the car right away. Individuals want to see full service records, want explanations for why anything other than an oil change was performed, need a loan, waiting on something (sell their own car, discuss with wife, etc etc).

All that said, I prefer selling to an individual as long as the price is compensating me for that uncertainty.

The dealers are taking a lot of risk buying expensive cars immediately, sight unseen, no questions asked. They then offer at a price where the car isn't such a great deal, that allows people to ask all the questions, look at every single other option in the market, get required permissions, offer dealer financing which is lower interest, etc etc.

Obviously I get why it's frustrating in a hot market that dealers snag the cars, but I think that anyone looking for a great price needs to be immediately willing to act, and realize the certainty of a dealer transaction is difficult option to overcome for a seller.
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pfbz

Exactly. I too prefer to buy directly from and sell directly to individuals, but you are spot-on regarding why dealers snag so many 'good deals' out there.

I guess they figure if they buy it with little due diligence and it isn't a good as they expected, they can just flip it at auction for little or no loss, and if it it as nice as they expected mark it way up and sell retail.

Olsdog

I used to feel the same way until the time I traded boats with a guy that turned out to be a serial murderer. Now, the security of not having to deal with a stranger, especially with such a high dollar purchase/sale is worth a few bucks. https://murderpedia.org/male.D/d/deleon-skylar.htm

tstafford

This. It's worth the haircut not to deal with the BS.

Dguth

Agreed, if you see a good deal, you have to be ready to ask fast. I had less than 24 hours to make my decision otherwise long list of buyers behind me would have purchased it. Crazy market right now, even for prices that don't seem reasonable compared to a year ago. From what I've heard, we are in this inflation pressure for next 12 to 24 months minimum and who knows where prices will be after that.

fijibubba

iLusso just listed the Chalk 3RS. No pictures yet but lots of money spent on extras. 290K 2,814 Miles

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2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS in Chalk Grey over black with yellow accents. Upgrades include. - 20/21 Forgeline GE-R1 Gloss Black - Michelin PS Cup 2 R tires (OEM Specs) - Emotion Engineering Carbon Strakes - Emotion Engineering Solid Bushings - Emotion Engineering Stage II package - M Engineering Software Tune - Dundon Motorports Air Intake - Dundon Motorsports Long Tube Headers - Dundon Motorsports Loud Muffler - Exclusive Option Leather Stitching ($20K of interior upgraded black leather & yellow stitching parts) - TechArt Pepita Inserts - Illuminated OEM Door Sills - OEM Fire Extinguisher Installed - OEM Yellow Door Pulls - TAG Motorsports LWB Seat Brackets - FULL car PPF - FULL car Ceramic Coated - Clear Ceramic Coated Window Tint - Front Windshield Protection Film - Carbon Side Mirror Diffuser covers - GMG Roll Cage in Yellow.

https://www.ilusso.com/used-vehicle-...-gt3-rs-c-373/

PierreP3

My 2015 GT Silver GT3 is listed...
https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1287549

Maverick787

Wow surprised this fell through.
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/d...signal-yellow/

Jbravo23

one word. PDK

bet a manual with that spec would fetch at least 230.
awesome car nonetheless.

Maverick787

Good point in this NA/manual environment. ^^^

GTTROIS

It’s all personal taste… but this car deserved bucket seats IMHO.
EDIT: the car has indeed LWBS.
Also, steel brakes would have been a good fit as well, especially if one is considering tracking this beast.

STALKER99

They have listed a lot of their cars on BAT or PCA Market last week.
A manual 997.2 GTS didn’t meet their reserve either.

Jbravo23

For sure. If we’re talking the signal yellow one, it has full buckets.