The GT3 RS is truly unbelievable !
#47
Originally Posted by chance6
https://www.westmontporsche.com/cert...d04cf6a17e.htm
It's this one- but no LED headlights either. No Sport chrono- as long as the PDK shifts with the same urgency in Sport, I guess the wart doesn't matter too much on this car. I may go take a look!
It's this one- but no LED headlights either. No Sport chrono- as long as the PDK shifts with the same urgency in Sport, I guess the wart doesn't matter too much on this car. I may go take a look!
#49
lizard green is the best. Particularly with carbon ceramic brakes and Aurum wheels. The car is effectively a street legal racecar and therefore is ideally suited for such a flamboyant combination
#50
Burning Brakes
No disrespect but not one of my friends has ever thought my 2019 gt3rs is more fun than the scuderia.
the scud you will 100% regret selling, even my parents think I should never sell it, they love it.
the gt3rs is awesome and built well And wont cost much to maintain, but it will never have the soul the ferrari scuderia has. Youre lying to yourself on this forum to To convince yourself you made a good decision. Its a newer more modern car with a warranty and a better stereo and Bluetooth (albeit can barely hear people over exhaust) and if that why then u did make a good decision, but thats its only benefits. I hope you kept whoever you sold to #, youll need It in a couple years
I should add on the 991.2 3rs is in the top 10 cars of the 2000-2020 era and the only cars that Trump a scuderia are the CGT and Enzo. Its Enzo CGT scud. Then everything else so my argument was more the scud is just that amazing than the gt3rs is inferior at all to really all but a handful in the last 2 decades and I do think its the best car of the last 10 years closest being the gt3rs 4.0 from 2011
the scud you will 100% regret selling, even my parents think I should never sell it, they love it.
the gt3rs is awesome and built well And wont cost much to maintain, but it will never have the soul the ferrari scuderia has. Youre lying to yourself on this forum to To convince yourself you made a good decision. Its a newer more modern car with a warranty and a better stereo and Bluetooth (albeit can barely hear people over exhaust) and if that why then u did make a good decision, but thats its only benefits. I hope you kept whoever you sold to #, youll need It in a couple years
I should add on the 991.2 3rs is in the top 10 cars of the 2000-2020 era and the only cars that Trump a scuderia are the CGT and Enzo. Its Enzo CGT scud. Then everything else so my argument was more the scud is just that amazing than the gt3rs is inferior at all to really all but a handful in the last 2 decades and I do think its the best car of the last 10 years closest being the gt3rs 4.0 from 2011
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#51
Rennlist Member
Welikethetrack - I believe there are many owners of the Scud who feel the same as you. It is not too different than the folks who revere their 997.2RS. Six years ago I spent months looking for a lightly used red one. There were several around to choose from. Anywhere I traveled to for business, where one was for sale, I made an effort to see and drive the car. I wanted to love it, as it just seemed to be a raw version of the 430, which I have admired for years. It didn't do it for me. It looked the business and sounded good but something about the car when driving it didn't connect for me. Like you, I say this meaning no disrespect, but we're all simply different with varying expectations. I have a friend with a gated six speed 360, and he talks about his car like you and i love it. We should all be lucky enough to own a car we feel passionate about. Brings memories back to my teenage years when I had 1988 IROC 305 TPI w/ a manual transmission, which was very rare in the IROC. At that time I would have made the same proclamation that no other car had a soul like it. That is until I found the next car. I'm not making lite of how awesome the Scud is, indeed many feel that way, but who is to say the OP isn't telling the truth in how he feels about his new car. FWIW...my father had a blue 1967 Corvette split window coupe 427 w/4speed and side pipes. It is both seared in my memory and leg. There isn't anyone who could convince him there was a better car with more soul. .
#52
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
No disrespect but not one of my friends has ever thought my 2019 gt3rs is more fun than the scuderia.
the scud you will 100% regret selling, even my parents think I should never sell it, they love it.
the gt3rs is awesome and built well And won’t cost much to maintain, but it will never have the soul the ferrari scuderia has. You’re lying to yourself on this forum to To convince yourself you made a good decision. It’s a newer more modern car with a warranty and a better stereo and Bluetooth (albeit can barely hear people over exhaust) and if that why then u did make a good decision, but that’s its only benefits. I hope you kept whoever you sold to #, you’ll need It in a couple years
I should add on the 991.2 3rs is in the top 10 cars of the 2000-2020 era and the only cars that Trump a scuderia are the CGT and Enzo. It’s Enzo CGT scud. Then everything else so my argument was more the scud is just that amazing than the gt3rs is inferior at all to really all but a handful in the last 2 decades and I do think it’s the best car of the last 10 years closest being the gt3rs 4.0 from 2011
the scud you will 100% regret selling, even my parents think I should never sell it, they love it.
the gt3rs is awesome and built well And won’t cost much to maintain, but it will never have the soul the ferrari scuderia has. You’re lying to yourself on this forum to To convince yourself you made a good decision. It’s a newer more modern car with a warranty and a better stereo and Bluetooth (albeit can barely hear people over exhaust) and if that why then u did make a good decision, but that’s its only benefits. I hope you kept whoever you sold to #, you’ll need It in a couple years
I should add on the 991.2 3rs is in the top 10 cars of the 2000-2020 era and the only cars that Trump a scuderia are the CGT and Enzo. It’s Enzo CGT scud. Then everything else so my argument was more the scud is just that amazing than the gt3rs is inferior at all to really all but a handful in the last 2 decades and I do think it’s the best car of the last 10 years closest being the gt3rs 4.0 from 2011
People who believe "but it is a Ferrari, need to get over their ego issues" not to mention the comparative lap times https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eife_lap_times
Last edited by Richard.; 04-11-2020 at 09:05 AM.
#53
Nordschleife Master
Welikethetrack: I'm not impressed by the Scud. Drove one and wasn't impressed. A close friend of mine owned it for a number of years and then sold it and bought a Performante'. Likes it more than the Scud. He loves my GT3RS. I think the .2 3RS has it all over the Scud in every category. So does he.
I can think of a other cars that trump the Scud in the last 15 years. The 05-06 Ford GT for one. The 997 RS 4.0 for another. The 675LT for another. You have your list I have mine. YMMV.
675LT is beautiful. Love it and no doubt in a straight line pulls harder than the .2 GT3RSf but it won't match the ability of the .2 GT3RS on track and track times. On track the RS is the superior car and the better built more durable car.
Plus you will get the RS damn close in acceleration pull with a Dundon tune and headers.
I can think of a other cars that trump the Scud in the last 15 years. The 05-06 Ford GT for one. The 997 RS 4.0 for another. The 675LT for another. You have your list I have mine. YMMV.
675LT is beautiful. Love it and no doubt in a straight line pulls harder than the .2 GT3RSf but it won't match the ability of the .2 GT3RS on track and track times. On track the RS is the superior car and the better built more durable car.
Plus you will get the RS damn close in acceleration pull with a Dundon tune and headers.
Last edited by Waxer; 04-11-2020 at 12:18 PM.
#54
Underwhelmed by the scud - and very surprised to be so underwhelmed - also, wasn't great round a track, OK in a straight line. Looks good tho RS is in a different league in every way - feedback, feel, sound, performance.
However, never dropped the hammer on a fezza was close with a 488 and ended up with a 720S - so perhaps I'm not a natural fezzaphile
However, never dropped the hammer on a fezza was close with a 488 and ended up with a 720S - so perhaps I'm not a natural fezzaphile
Last edited by groundhog; 04-11-2020 at 11:09 PM.
#55
Rennlist Member
I wouldn't be too sure about this. The 675LT is a track weapon
#56
Nordschleife Master
#57
Given the seasons over - thought I'd do some world class forensic magazine racing How good is the .2 RS. See below for "official" Sport Auto ring times by Chris Gebhardt (Journo racer for Sport Auto - he's both fast and consistent)
The Ring (Chris Gebhardt)
(1) Porsche 991 GT2 RS - 6:58.28
(2) Ferrari Pista - 7:00.03
(3) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 RS - 7:05.41
(4) Mercedes Benz GTR Pro - 7:07.00
(5) McLaren 720S - 7:08.00
(6) McLaren 600LT - 7:08.82
(7) Mercedes Benz AMG GTR - 7:10.92
(8) Chevrolet Corvette (Z06) C7 - 7:13.90
(9) Porsche 991 (II) Turbo S - 7:17.11
(10) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 - 7:18.00
(11) Ferrari 488 GTB - 7:21.63
(12) Porsche 991 (II) GTS - 7:23.77
(13) Ferrari 812 Superfast - 7:27.48
(14) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 RS - 7:28.00*
(15) Lamborghini Huracan LP610-4 - 7:28.00
(16) Porsche 992 (I) S - 7:30.00
(17) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 - 7:32.20
(18) Porsche 991 (II) S - 7:34.00
(19) Honda NSX (II) - 7:36.00
(20) BMW M5 Competition (F90) - 7:36.00
(21) Porsche 981 GT4 - 7:42.00
*topspeed limited to 250kmh (2 sections)
Hockenheim Short (also Chris Gebhardt)
(1) Porsche 991 GT2 RS - 1:03.08
(2) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 RS - 1:05.40
(3) Huracan Performante - 1:05.50
(3) McLaren 720S - 1:05.50
(4) Mercedes AMG GTR - 1:06.40
(5) Chevrolet Corvette (Z06) C7 - 1:06.90
(6) Ferrari 488 GTB - 1:07.00
(7) McLaren 675LT - 1:07.20
(8) Porsche 991 (II) Turbo S 1:07.4
(9) Lamborghini Huracan LP410-4 - 1:07.50
(10) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 - 1:07.90
(11) Porsche 991 (II) GTS - 1:08.00
(12) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 RS - 1:08.50
(13) Chevrolet Corvette (Z06) Z07 - 1:08.70
(14) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 - 1:09.20
(15) Porsche 981 GT4 - 1:10.10
The Ring (Chris Gebhardt)
(1) Porsche 991 GT2 RS - 6:58.28
(2) Ferrari Pista - 7:00.03
(3) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 RS - 7:05.41
(4) Mercedes Benz GTR Pro - 7:07.00
(5) McLaren 720S - 7:08.00
(6) McLaren 600LT - 7:08.82
(7) Mercedes Benz AMG GTR - 7:10.92
(8) Chevrolet Corvette (Z06) C7 - 7:13.90
(9) Porsche 991 (II) Turbo S - 7:17.11
(10) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 - 7:18.00
(11) Ferrari 488 GTB - 7:21.63
(12) Porsche 991 (II) GTS - 7:23.77
(13) Ferrari 812 Superfast - 7:27.48
(14) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 RS - 7:28.00*
(15) Lamborghini Huracan LP610-4 - 7:28.00
(16) Porsche 992 (I) S - 7:30.00
(17) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 - 7:32.20
(18) Porsche 991 (II) S - 7:34.00
(19) Honda NSX (II) - 7:36.00
(20) BMW M5 Competition (F90) - 7:36.00
(21) Porsche 981 GT4 - 7:42.00
*topspeed limited to 250kmh (2 sections)
Hockenheim Short (also Chris Gebhardt)
(1) Porsche 991 GT2 RS - 1:03.08
(2) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 RS - 1:05.40
(3) Huracan Performante - 1:05.50
(3) McLaren 720S - 1:05.50
(4) Mercedes AMG GTR - 1:06.40
(5) Chevrolet Corvette (Z06) C7 - 1:06.90
(6) Ferrari 488 GTB - 1:07.00
(7) McLaren 675LT - 1:07.20
(8) Porsche 991 (II) Turbo S 1:07.4
(9) Lamborghini Huracan LP410-4 - 1:07.50
(10) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 - 1:07.90
(11) Porsche 991 (II) GTS - 1:08.00
(12) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 RS - 1:08.50
(13) Chevrolet Corvette (Z06) Z07 - 1:08.70
(14) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 - 1:09.20
(15) Porsche 981 GT4 - 1:10.10
Last edited by groundhog; 04-12-2020 at 07:48 AM. Reason: Source Sport Auto and Fastestlaps
#58
Nordschleife Master
Given the seasons over - thought I'd do some world class forensic magazine racing How good is the .2 RS. See below for "official" Sport Auto ring times by Chris Gebhardt (Journo racer for Sport Auto - he's both fast and consistent)
The Ring (Chris Gebhardt)
(1) Porsche 991 GT2 RS - 6:58.28
(2) Ferrari Pista - 7:00.03
(3) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 RS - 7:05.41
(4) Mercedes Benz GTR Pro - 7:07.00
(5) McLaren 720S - 7:08.00
(6) McLaren 600LT - 7:08.82
(7) Mercedes Benz AMG GTR - 7:10.92
(8) Chevrolet Corvette (Z06) C7 - 7:13.90
(9) Porsche 991 (II) Turbo S - 7:17.11
(10) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 - 7:18.00
(11) Ferrari 488 GTB - 7:21.63
(12) Porsche 991 (II) GTS - 7:23.77
(13) Ferrari 812 Superfast - 7:27.48
(14) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 RS - 7:28.00*
(15) Lamborghini Huracan LP610-4 - 7:28.00
(16) Porsche 992 (I) S - 7:30.00
(17) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 - 7:32.20
(18) Porsche 991 (II) S - 7:34.00
(19) Honda NSX (II) - 7:36.00
(20) BMW M5 Competition (F90) - 7:36.00
(21) Porsche 981 GT4 - 7:42.00
*topspeed limited to 250kmh (2 sections)
Hockenheim Short (also Chris Gebhardt)
(1) Porsche 991 GT2 RS - 1:03.08
(2) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 RS - 1:05.40
(3) Huracan Performante - 1:05.50
(3) McLaren 720S - 1:05.50
(4) Mercedes AMG GTR - 1:06.40
(5) Chevrolet Corvette (Z06) C7 - 1:06.90
(6) Ferrari 488 GTB - 1:07.00
(7) McLaren 675LT - 1:07.20
(8) Porsche 991 (II) Turbo S 1:07.4
(9) Lamborghini Huracan LP410-4 - 1:07.50
(10) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 - 1:07.90
(11) Porsche 991 (II) GTS - 1:08.00
(12) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 RS - 1:08.50
(13) Chevrolet Corvette (Z06) Z07 - 1:08.70
(14) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 - 1:09.20
(15) Porsche 981 GT4 - 1:10.10
The Ring (Chris Gebhardt)
(1) Porsche 991 GT2 RS - 6:58.28
(2) Ferrari Pista - 7:00.03
(3) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 RS - 7:05.41
(4) Mercedes Benz GTR Pro - 7:07.00
(5) McLaren 720S - 7:08.00
(6) McLaren 600LT - 7:08.82
(7) Mercedes Benz AMG GTR - 7:10.92
(8) Chevrolet Corvette (Z06) C7 - 7:13.90
(9) Porsche 991 (II) Turbo S - 7:17.11
(10) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 - 7:18.00
(11) Ferrari 488 GTB - 7:21.63
(12) Porsche 991 (II) GTS - 7:23.77
(13) Ferrari 812 Superfast - 7:27.48
(14) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 RS - 7:28.00*
(15) Lamborghini Huracan LP610-4 - 7:28.00
(16) Porsche 992 (I) S - 7:30.00
(17) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 - 7:32.20
(18) Porsche 991 (II) S - 7:34.00
(19) Honda NSX (II) - 7:36.00
(20) BMW M5 Competition (F90) - 7:36.00
(21) Porsche 981 GT4 - 7:42.00
*topspeed limited to 250kmh (2 sections)
Hockenheim Short (also Chris Gebhardt)
(1) Porsche 991 GT2 RS - 1:03.08
(2) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 RS - 1:05.40
(3) Huracan Performante - 1:05.50
(3) McLaren 720S - 1:05.50
(4) Mercedes AMG GTR - 1:06.40
(5) Chevrolet Corvette (Z06) C7 - 1:06.90
(6) Ferrari 488 GTB - 1:07.00
(7) McLaren 675LT - 1:07.20
(8) Porsche 991 (II) Turbo S 1:07.4
(9) Lamborghini Huracan LP410-4 - 1:07.50
(10) Porsche 991 (II) GT3 - 1:07.90
(11) Porsche 991 (II) GTS - 1:08.00
(12) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 RS - 1:08.50
(13) Chevrolet Corvette (Z06) Z07 - 1:08.70
(14) Porsche 991 (I) GT3 - 1:09.20
(15) Porsche 981 GT4 - 1:10.10
I just cut and paste.
Oh, I made a mistake, GT3RS spots 675LT 155 hp not 130 hp.
#60
Nordschleife Master