Dealer refunded my GT3 deposit last week..
03-06-2018, 10:31 AM
#62
Yup, I politely bugged my SA every other week for months just letting him know I was there and hopeful to get an allocation... then I complained to a local community Pcar organizer that it seemed like I was never going to get an allocation. He made a visit, had a talk and I had an allocation the next day (yes, I'm very grateful for my friend and consider myself lucky for that!). You have to be just slightly annoying, but IMO, very courteous and easy to deal with as a customer. No dealer wants to do business with "that guy" and being a "good guy" goes a long way. We're all "rich" to some extent and probably feel a little entitled, but so does everyone else. Kill 'em with kindness and likeability!
03-06-2018, 10:46 AM
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03-06-2018, 11:01 AM
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Race Director
03-06-2018, 12:02 PM
#67
Waiting for what??? For a GT3 to fall in your lap.
Most stupid thing I have heard. You want one- you need to get aggressive and go get one not wait for an email or your phone to ring- not going to happen. The squeaky wheel gets greased. That is what happens when demand out strips supply.
Most stupid thing I have heard. You want one- you need to get aggressive and go get one not wait for an email or your phone to ring- not going to happen. The squeaky wheel gets greased. That is what happens when demand out strips supply.
03-06-2018, 12:06 PM
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03-06-2018, 01:04 PM
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I've owned retail stores and a wholesale distribution business for the last 15 years. I work with very slim margins and a large part of what I deal in are limited run items. I've never charged a customer over MSRP, or over wholesale to a retailer even though I could on a frequent basis. The reputation of my business, as well as the reputation of the brands I represent are far too important to me over making a few extra bucks marking up select items. Other guys do it, and over time their reputations along with their businesses end up suffering as a result. People get tired of the games and leave.....But what do I know..
If dealerships sold ALL their cars at MSRP, then there would be no ADM on GT3. Sadly that is not the case.
03-06-2018, 01:58 PM
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Three Wheelin'
Call your dealer out here and name it. These unscrupulous dealers are getting "Interest Free" money by accepting deposits they really cannot fulfill. 
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
No call.. No email.. Just returned it to my CC. After 8 months of holding my money and insisting on a monthly basis that I'd get an allocation. During this time, I also bought a Cayenne from them.
I feel used...... I'm probably going to do something stupid and by a 458 now!
I feel used...... I'm probably going to do something stupid and by a 458 now!
03-06-2018, 02:20 PM
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it is wrong for them to take deposits, waitlists are better for this system, but it takes a proactive dealership infrastructure to create business in this system
Dealers should be creating as many as they can to show PCNA they have buyers. Some work the system, some are worked by the system.
03-06-2018, 02:32 PM
#73
I bought the Cayenne because I needed a new SUV. I would have purchased one anyway, but probably from another dealer. Find me a 15k ADM GT3 allocation, I have cash in hand!
It's just a car at the end of the day and I'll end up with something probably better and won't look back. It's just the dishonesty of the dealers that ridiculous.
It's just a car at the end of the day and I'll end up with something probably better and won't look back. It's just the dishonesty of the dealers that ridiculous.
Even if the outcome is the same, I'd feel more acceptable if my SA keep telling me 'there is no guarantee, but we can try.'; instead of building my hope with 'you can certainly get one' for months and backed out silently in the end.
I was 'lucky' that my SA told me no go right after the car was released a year ago. So I retrieved my deposit, moved on and hunt for something else.
03-06-2018, 02:34 PM
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Rennlist Member
The 458 is a great car, after I wasnt able to get a GT3.2 I was strongly considering it. Instead I found a 911_50th in graphite, no sunroof, and a manual, hopefully here in the next week or so.
Goodluck on the F-car!
Goodluck on the F-car!
03-06-2018, 02:38 PM
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Three Wheelin'
i am good in creating "Demand."If it is just a "Customer Order List" with no guarantee of a car, I'm good with that too. BUT accepting deposit with no written nor explicit expression that no car is guaranteed is simply a case of borrowing money interest free.
Morals and Porsche GT Cars are very hard to find nowadays.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Morals and Porsche GT Cars are very hard to find nowadays.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
yes and no. if and when a dealership receives a deposit or creates a waitlist (frankly they should be doing this whether or not they get a deposit or create a wishlist), they have to create what is called "ORDER DEMAND" in the Porsche Vehicle Management System. This creates an order demand to PCNA to PAG. Based on the # of order demands, but more importantly the market share of the dealership selling 911, they will receive allocations from PCNA.
it is wrong for them to take deposits, waitlists are better for this system, but it takes a proactive dealership infrastructure to create business in this system
Dealers should be creating as many as they can to show PCNA they have buyers. Some work the system, some are worked by the system.
it is wrong for them to take deposits, waitlists are better for this system, but it takes a proactive dealership infrastructure to create business in this system
Dealers should be creating as many as they can to show PCNA they have buyers. Some work the system, some are worked by the system.