New GT3/GT2RS Leads With/Without ADM
#257
Race Director
I have been doing business with the Porsche Exchange for about 15 years. They have been nothing but great to me and have nothing but a great experience with them. I find the GM and Sales Manager over there to be very approachable and nothing but stand-up guys. I have been invited to events by them outside of Dealership events.
#258
Rennlist Member
IMHO this is the second most entertaining/interesting forum on RL. Mooty's "Just got back, let's discuss the value of Porsches" still takes 1st place...
#260
Rennlist Member
I have purchased many cars from many dealers in my life and can say without question that The Porsche Exchange has been simply the best dealer I have worked with. Have always treated me like a VIP even though they have a large client base of high end customers. As with all service businesses, there is always an example of a mistake or issue. I have never had one with The Exchange!!
#261
Race Director
I think some may be jumping to conclusions pulling in the Porsche Exchange in relation to ChicagoWhales comments?? At this point there is little evidence of that other than a conspiracy theory.
Correlating ChicagoWhale >> dealer cheerleader >> to Porsche Exchange >> you need more sold info, rather than throwing a dealer under the bus.
Not that I agree with ChicagoWhales comments, just the Porsche Exchange connection has yet to be verified by a BIG stretch. My hunch would be he is NOT working for any dealer.
Not all ADM dealers are bad, and not all MSRP dealers are saints. Not as clear cut as that. Some buyers of these cars have many flaws as well.
In the meantime, add to your Christmas list:
Correlating ChicagoWhale >> dealer cheerleader >> to Porsche Exchange >> you need more sold info, rather than throwing a dealer under the bus.
Not that I agree with ChicagoWhales comments, just the Porsche Exchange connection has yet to be verified by a BIG stretch. My hunch would be he is NOT working for any dealer.
Not all ADM dealers are bad, and not all MSRP dealers are saints. Not as clear cut as that. Some buyers of these cars have many flaws as well.
In the meantime, add to your Christmas list:
Last edited by STG; 12-17-2017 at 10:54 AM.
#263
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You bloodhounds are barking up the wrong tree. The “Chicago Whale” moniker is derived from the utterly hilarious London Whale episode of 2012. To make a long story short, an old friend from my days at Deutsche Bank is the guy who checkmated Iksil. Using the “Whale” nickname is a running joke among friends. If you spent any time on a credit desk, you’d understand the reference. If you aren’t familiar with it, grab a Pilsner, click the link and knock yourself out:
http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...PMWhalePSI.pdf
For too long, a few piranhas around here have been indiscriminately smearing PCNA and Porsche dealers with impunity. With exception of two or three dealers, not a single Porsche dealer interacts with the Rennlist community anymore because of it; sure, there’s a few classified ads, but that’s it. Martin (and his 7900 comments) is the centerpiece of it, and everyone I talk to agrees. There might be a few other culprits, but Martin is far and away the worst. Unfortunately, the spirit of the GT forums on Rennlist has completely changed over the years. Gone are the days of people actually commenting on their driving experiences. It's been replaced with “stealerships,” “thunderdome” and a bunch of hypocrisy.
I’ve got evening plans (I’m 8 hours away). I’ll continue this either later tonight or tomorrow morning. In a nutshell, I'm just balancing the scales.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...PMWhalePSI.pdf
For too long, a few piranhas around here have been indiscriminately smearing PCNA and Porsche dealers with impunity. With exception of two or three dealers, not a single Porsche dealer interacts with the Rennlist community anymore because of it; sure, there’s a few classified ads, but that’s it. Martin (and his 7900 comments) is the centerpiece of it, and everyone I talk to agrees. There might be a few other culprits, but Martin is far and away the worst. Unfortunately, the spirit of the GT forums on Rennlist has completely changed over the years. Gone are the days of people actually commenting on their driving experiences. It's been replaced with “stealerships,” “thunderdome” and a bunch of hypocrisy.
I’ve got evening plans (I’m 8 hours away). I’ll continue this either later tonight or tomorrow morning. In a nutshell, I'm just balancing the scales.
#264
You bloodhounds are barking up the wrong tree. The “Chicago Whale” moniker is derived from the utterly hilarious London Whale episode of 2012. To make a long story short, an old friend from my days at Deutsche Bank is the guy who checkmated Iksil. Using the “Whale” nickname is a running joke among friends. If you spent any time on a credit desk, you’d understand the reference. If you aren’t familiar with it, grab a Pilsner, click the link and knock yourself out:
http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...PMWhalePSI.pdf
For too long, a few piranhas around here have been indiscriminately smearing PCNA and Porsche dealers with impunity. With exception of two or three dealers, not a single Porsche dealer interacts with the Rennlist community anymore because of it; sure, there’s a few classified ads, but that’s it. Martin (and his 7900 comments) is the centerpiece of it, and everyone I talk to agrees. There might be a few other culprits, but Martin is far and away the worst. Unfortunately, the spirit of the GT forums on Rennlist has completely changed over the years. Gone are the days of people actually commenting on their driving experiences. It's been replaced with “stealerships,” “thunderdome” and a bunch of hypocrisy.
I’ve got evening plans (I’m 8 hours away). I’ll continue this either later tonight or tomorrow morning. In a nutshell, I'm just balancing the scales.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...PMWhalePSI.pdf
For too long, a few piranhas around here have been indiscriminately smearing PCNA and Porsche dealers with impunity. With exception of two or three dealers, not a single Porsche dealer interacts with the Rennlist community anymore because of it; sure, there’s a few classified ads, but that’s it. Martin (and his 7900 comments) is the centerpiece of it, and everyone I talk to agrees. There might be a few other culprits, but Martin is far and away the worst. Unfortunately, the spirit of the GT forums on Rennlist has completely changed over the years. Gone are the days of people actually commenting on their driving experiences. It's been replaced with “stealerships,” “thunderdome” and a bunch of hypocrisy.
I’ve got evening plans (I’m 8 hours away). I’ll continue this either later tonight or tomorrow morning. In a nutshell, I'm just balancing the scales.
#265
You bloodhounds are barking up the wrong tree. The “Chicago Whale” moniker is derived from the utterly hilarious London Whale episode of 2012. To make a long story short, an old friend from my days at Deutsche Bank is the guy who checkmated Iksil. Using the “Whale” nickname is a running joke among friends. If you spent any time on a credit desk, you’d understand the reference. If you aren’t familiar with it, grab a Pilsner, click the link and knock yourself out:
http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...PMWhalePSI.pdf
For too long, a few piranhas around here have been indiscriminately smearing PCNA and Porsche dealers with impunity. With exception of two or three dealers, not a single Porsche dealer interacts with the Rennlist community anymore because of it; sure, there’s a few classified ads, but that’s it. Martin (and his 7900 comments) is the centerpiece of it, and everyone I talk to agrees. There might be a few other culprits, but Martin is far and away the worst. Unfortunately, the spirit of the GT forums on Rennlist has completely changed over the years. Gone are the days of people actually commenting on their driving experiences. It's been replaced with “stealerships,” “thunderdome” and a bunch of hypocrisy.
I’ve got evening plans (I’m 8 hours away). I’ll continue this either later tonight or tomorrow morning. In a nutshell, I'm just balancing the scales.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...PMWhalePSI.pdf
For too long, a few piranhas around here have been indiscriminately smearing PCNA and Porsche dealers with impunity. With exception of two or three dealers, not a single Porsche dealer interacts with the Rennlist community anymore because of it; sure, there’s a few classified ads, but that’s it. Martin (and his 7900 comments) is the centerpiece of it, and everyone I talk to agrees. There might be a few other culprits, but Martin is far and away the worst. Unfortunately, the spirit of the GT forums on Rennlist has completely changed over the years. Gone are the days of people actually commenting on their driving experiences. It's been replaced with “stealerships,” “thunderdome” and a bunch of hypocrisy.
I’ve got evening plans (I’m 8 hours away). I’ll continue this either later tonight or tomorrow morning. In a nutshell, I'm just balancing the scales.
#266
#267
Race Car
Find me a dealership that will take my deposit and honor their agreements with me and I will tell you about my good dealership experience. Very hard to find in the current climate. Also can't write about my driving experiences about a car I cant buy.
Just my .2. YMMV
#268
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Ok so at the core of all this- chicago Whale is the Lone Ranger of dealer advocates because he feels like we as a group complain too much
1) big guys squish little guys
2) little guys stand up for themselves
3) random guy instigates against little guys
4) little guys turn on random guy
None of that has solved anything about people protesting the distribution or transparency of the PAG to PCNA to customer Model.
1) big guys squish little guys
2) little guys stand up for themselves
3) random guy instigates against little guys
4) little guys turn on random guy
None of that has solved anything about people protesting the distribution or transparency of the PAG to PCNA to customer Model.
#269
Race Car
Ok so at the core of all this- chicago Whale is the Lone Ranger of dealer advocates because he feels like we as a group complain too much
1) big guys squish little guys
2) little guys stand up for themselves
3) random guy instigates against little guys
4) little guys turn on random guy
None of that has solved anything about people protesting the distribution or transparency of the PAG to PCNA to customer Model.
1) big guys squish little guys
2) little guys stand up for themselves
3) random guy instigates against little guys
4) little guys turn on random guy
None of that has solved anything about people protesting the distribution or transparency of the PAG to PCNA to customer Model.
Agree 1000% with CJ
#270
Rennlist Member