Crubbert

Hey bobbymcbobby….find a good dealer to work with, not every Porsche dealer in the US can be as incompetent as our dealers in New England. Porsche will absolutely extend warranty beyond the 10 years, just make sure your dealer will go that route for you unless you would be willing to look at 3rd party insurance. There are some posts about those here too, perhaps ping those guy’s about their experience with those insurances.

Perhaps purchase your 991.1 from a dealer and negotiate a warranty extension at the same time - that way you’ll be able to enjoy the car to the max.

bobbymcbobby

Do you know if there options for extending the warranty were I to purchase the car after the 10 years ends? Or would the extension have to be made within the 10 years?

Crubbert

Good question….im not 100% sure on that but if maintenance schedule’s have been meet and the car has a clean history, why not ? But surely there are people on here that can answer that question much better than myself.

el0designs

Someone on FB posted something interesting in one of the GT3 groups I follow. They mentioned that of the 6500 or so 991.1 GT3's manufactured, about 330 had engine issues. I am not sure where that data came from or if accurate, but it got me thinking. When you do any research online about engine failures, you are more likely going to find posts of people who have had issues. And, even when you add those up, its maybe dozens of people. Certainly not thousands.

On one hand, any vehicle, even a toyota camry, if driven hard to redline for a long time period of time, you are bound to have failures. If multiple camrys (in my posted example) were to fail for the same reason, is that considered a "defect" or known issue?

On the other hand, if the camry were manufactured to be driven in this way and then fail, does that change the dataset?

That said, the fact that the 991.1 GT3 (or any other generation really) can be driven in this way and majority of them are fine, day in and day out, is a HUGE testament to Porsche. Then, for them to say, sure it failed sometimes so here is a 10 year warranty is crazy. Would any of the other manufacturers do that I wonder?

Anyway, I wasn't part of the original meetings and I am sure there is data there I am unaware of. The original group did a fantastic job of giving us owners peace of mind.

But, still I wonder if the issue may have been blown out of proportion online and in the forums and mostly by people who don't own a GT3? Just my thoughts...

Manifold

If the failure rate is about 5%, I'd say that's unacceptably high. And when you consider that the failure rate is likely much higher than that for the cars that were driven reasonably hard (as they're supposed to be) for 10-50k miles, that's uneven more unacceptable. IMO, the issue wasn't blown out of proportion, and once the engine warranty ends, Porsche should at least offer an option to extend the warranty further at a reasonable cost.

el0designs

@Manifold I wish there was a way to find out the true number of engine failures to date. I also agree that Porsche should offer an extended 10 year or whatever term for a reasonable cost, especially since they acknowledged the issue in the first place. Given what I read on some of the posts, it sounds like Porsche did or has been offering something. From what I can see however, the experience for owners seems to be inconsistent. Ideally, Porsche offers something universally and it would be easily accessible to all the dealers and owners.

Cay_PI

For sure a lot more than 300 Just ask the current owners on what engine their car is. You will barely find one with the 1st engine. Maybe already 60-70% have a G6 and lots of them had another engine replacement before. All other than G6 will fail at the usual mileage range.

Maxi_z

BTW it could be just a coincidence , but on my old 991.1 GT3 I was not following the official oil reccommendations and used some Bardahl XTR 5w50 motorsport oil ( the Bardahl oil is blended with anti friction addittive ) and I did a lot of trackdays and I sold the car when about
40000 Km and the engine was still the E engine ( It was the engine replaced by Porsche when the car was almost new ) and never had a problem

Not sure if the oil type could at least reduce the eventual coating wear problem and worth using some other brand oil ( as for example Bardahl that I think also exist in an approved XTC 5w40 or 0w40 , or Motul , etc , but at least for an out of warranty car used on track it could be something to consider ( maybe asking the advice of some knowleadgeable motorist or independent Porsche specialist or race team )

Of course using motorport oil or not following Porsche reccomendations is at your own risk as it s not officially approved and but could be interesting to know if that could make the coating wear less

Cay_PI

40k is not unusual... they die in the 40k-50k range.

robmypro

Update: Well my error wasn't related to a misfire. Code cleared by itself and hasn't come back. Took it to the drags (Bandimere) and it set almost identical times from 2016. So I can say this engine hasn't missed a beat. Ran 12.72 at 111.76 mph. This is at about 5800 ft above sea level. I am down about 85 horsepower.

bobbymcbobby

I had asked my dealership if they accept fidelity warranty which they responded they do, as I’m looking to purchase a 991.1 gt3- with the engine warranty coming to an end, does anyone know if the fidelity warranty covers engine replacement? The platinum warranty is exclusionary and says they cover engine , drivetrain- could be worth if it is covered

Highline-Autos.com

We are retailers of Fidelity warranty coverage and unfortunately Fidelity does not cover Porsche GT cars except the Cayman GT4 and GT4RS.

slipaway37

Why is your dealership not offering an extended warranty?
That is where I obtained my GT3 coverage.

bobbymcbobby

Oh I haven't purchased the car yet, I want to ensure I can get some sort of warranty prior to purchasing. The car is at a third party dealership, and when I spoke with the Porsche dealership service manager and gave him the VIN of the car, he said that since he looked up the VIN and "saw there has been no maintenance done at a Porsche facility" and that a third party extended warranty would be the only option, the other option he said was I would need to sell them the car, they'd certify it, then sell it back- which kind of got me confused. I know from other posts that if the car's warranty has expired and there is no CPO warranty, it is not possible to purchase an extended warranty from Porsche so maybe that is what he was referring to?
Looking at the CarFax, there has been maintenance done at Porsche dealerships- but the service manager said from what he can see only recall and warranty work was performed so it does not count...
Hence I've been looking into options for third party warranties that are exclusionary

Highline-Autos.com

Correct, you'd have to sell the car then repurchase the car from the dealership to CPO, however you'd also have to pay tax on the vehicle again when you "repurchase" your CPO car. For information from our other extended warranty provider who does offer exclusionary coverage on all Porsche GT cars, Freedom Warranty, you can reach me at tgibson@highline-autos.com or (855) 924-1333. Good Luck!