96PorscheTwinTurbo

Again, helpful comments. Thanks. I'll ask about the over rev readout. Agree on countering at 54.5k with CPO. I had the same thought on the the fact that I probably don't need the additional 2 years but if I can get for the same price, why not? Is CPO transferable it I sell it? Thanks much!

tripleblack

You're welcome. Apparently it is a relatively easy installation but please don't take my word for it - rather check with them directly. Also, you might want to search for discussions of PDK with & without SC. Good luck!

Macster

My info based on what I learned from my 03 Turbo's CPO warranty (the 'improved' one in that the warranty became available sometime in 2008 (my Turbo received its CPO warranty early in June 2009 shortly before I bought it) and covers the car almost as well as the new car warranty) is the warranty is transferable if you: 1) Sell the car to a private buyer. I have read/heard a small ($100?) fee needs be paid to cover the transfer; 2) Sell or trade in the car to a Porsche dealer. Both of these though assume you have done nothing to the car to void the CPO warranty. Read the warranty fine print to find out what this covers. The warranty remains in effect and unless it expires on time or miles -- unless there is some kind of exclusion for the time and miles the car picks up while on the dealer's lot -- is then when the car sold the warranty remains in effect and the new owner now has a car wtih its remaining CPO warranty.

Be sure you see the warranty paperwork and confirm the car has the new/improved CPO warranty. IIRC on Porsche's USA website there's some documentation about the CPO warranty. I got the CPO paper work when I bought the car in fact I had it to review before I bought the car. And another dealer printed out what was covered by the CPO warranty when the battery died. The battery is not covered as are most wear items.

It is up to you. If you can get the CPO warranty for essentially for free then get it. If you decide to sell the car then the car having a CPO warranty certainly adds to the car's desirablity and should make selling the car easier and for more money than you would sell it for it did not have the warranty. But avoid paying too much for the warranty cause you will not get all of this money back when you sell the car.

Or if you plan on keeping the car and driving the car a lot of miles the CPO warranty can provide considerable of peace of mind.

I know in the case of my 03 Turbo, I would probably not have bought the car sans a CPO warranty (and the original factory warranty had expired on time), even though the car only had around 10K miles on it.

The Turbo's CPO warranty paid for itself and then some. The car though a very good car and in pristine condition and well-taken care of (for a little used car, though it had sort of (but not too skimpy) regular servicing) and one I might own for a long time and drive for many miles (as I'm likely to do: my 02 Boxster bought new in 02 now has over 241K miles on it) still required over $10K of work which was all covered under the CPO warranty.

But I note that all of this work (except the clutch accumulator and clutch slave cylinder) came about while the car still had less than 50K miles on it (it has over 58K miles now) so had the car been driven about 12.5K miles per year instead of 1666K miles per year these problems would have appeared while the new car warranty was still in effect. In fact had the 1st owner put about 35K miles on the car all but the clutch accumulator and clutch slave cylinder would have occurred.

Sincerely,

Macster.

Frank Bullitt

... were you ever a Lotus Buzzbomb jockey? Your handle sounds familiar.

tripleblack

Nope, not I. Have an all black 911. Do like Sevens though.

Frank Bullitt

This dude I speak of had a black on black Buzzbomb... and he was black. Very clever nom de plume I always thought.

Used to own a Seven. Like an idiot I sold it.

96PorscheTwinTurbo

Well, I went and checked the 2011 Caymen out. It has 2400 miles. Lists for $60k and they will sell for 54.5k with out CPO warranty or $56.9k with CPO. Pretty slim discount if you ask me. I walked but interested in your thoughts? Is this the best I'll be able to do? Thanks

saeyedoc

I'd pass too. You could order the same car easily for $57k and it would be a brand new 2012. Unless you keep it for a long time, you'd easily make up the difference when you sell or trade it, just from the difference in MY.

GoKart

Thread revival - would you DD a 987.1 that in 2021 has under 14k miles? Effectively sitting, barely driven, but excellent PPI results.

Fresh.Sizzle

Based on your circumstances it is recommended to aim for a 2007 987.1 Boxster or Cayman.

2007 model will give you the 'variocam plus' as well as the reinforced IMS. IMS is a non-issue in 07+, whereas some earlier 05+ 987 may still have the old IMS design.
Also the 07-08 Boxster have equivalent power to a Cayman (prior to 07 the Boxster is slightly detuned).


2009+ cars have no ims but they are also significantly more expensive for basically THE SAME CAR, unless you want a pdk.

And no, there isn't a big power or handling difference between a base and an S 987, or between any model of 987.1 vs. 987.2.
Don't worry about what others claim to say about the 20-35hp difference on paper, in real-life application the power is very similar.
If anyone wants to be truly honest they know that jumping from a base 987 into as S, you will not be blown away with any supposed level of increased power.

Shop for a 2007 987.1 by condition, price, and options -regardless of if it is a base or S.

Sport Seats, and Sport Steering Wheel are also must have options.

Fresh.Sizzle

I appreciate your concern, but....

No, 987 (07+) certainly do not have IMS bearing issues, and no it is not 'well documented' on google. No need to overblow a non-issue. It is partly because of such fear-mongering that the 987.2 are over-priced in the used market.

-IMS were prone to failure only in the 986 and 996 cars (and more specifically in only certain years of later model 986 and 996 cars) as well as some early 05+ 987 [exception is 996 turbo and GT models that had a different engine design].


-P.s; 2009+ 987 had no IMS regardless of direct injection which only came in the S model, the 2009 base 2.9 does not have DFI, it is an EFI.





07+ 987 were guaranteed to have the more robust redesigned IMS bearings. The chances of these failing is the same as you winning the lottery in the next 5 minutes.

deilenberger

Holy Cow Batman!

You win today's DEAD THREAD REVIVAL AWARD - 10 years since the thread was last posted to, The 987's were still in production when this thread was last posted to!

Send a self-addressed stamped envelope to Rennlist to receive your award!

​​​​​@Fresh.Sizzle I wonder if the guy who you're responding to is even on the forum anymore. I'll have to go look... you've responded to a 10 year old statement.

Looked - one of them at least hasn't been here in a while: Last Activity: 11-17-2018 10:38 PM. The other one: Last Activity 09-17-2018 11:01 AM. You're debating ghosts.