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Old Nov 11, 2023 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by C_H_A_D
anyone know who in Oregon/Valley could do this software change?
I brought mine to Porsche Beaverton. Callum was my SA when I asked them to do the work. He should be familiar.
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainSlowly
If anyone is looking to get this done in the Toronto area, PM me
Hey Captain,,
You are a lifesaver - how can i get in touch with you for this ??

Thank you sir !!
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by eklavyas
Hey Captain,,
You are a lifesaver - how can i get in touch with you for this ??

Thank you sir !!
I don’t know about lifesaver but you’ll need to make a few more posts on rennlist before you’ll be able to send me a private message
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Old Dec 10, 2023 | 08:12 PM
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Did this mod as well as PTV activation on six 981 Cayman/Boxster today. I did two couple weeks ago. Most of them, so far are loving it.


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Old Dec 10, 2023 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chase15
Did this mod as well as PTV activation on six 981 Cayman/Boxster today. I did two couple weeks ago. Most of them, so far are loving it.
I spy some Spyders. Did the GT3 calibration yield an improvement for them?
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Old Dec 10, 2023 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nhnguy12
I spy some Spyders. Did the GT3 calibration yield an improvement for them?
I didn't do it on that Spyder. There were like ten 981s at the meet this morning. Just the GTS, S and base models.
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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 03:35 PM
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The GT3 calibration definitely improves the feel of the steering. I have driven stock and GT3 on some roads with impressions from large trucks. Most cars will tramline with the impressions. There is much less tramlining and feel with the stock calibration. Once you go to the GT3 calibration tramlining increases and you better be holding the steering wheel. Around town on smooth roads it’s not as big a difference although the weight is less and it loads on corners. IMHO it’s better in almost every way unless you like the dull numb feeling for comfort. The car feels more agile for sure. I get some might think a placebo effect but going back and forth on the same stretch of road will make the difference obvious. I am never going back after various tests. That said it’s not like the car wasnt a blast to drive before. I did not have PTV so adding that helps cornering as well. I say just do it.
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 12:59 PM
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can you really notice PTV on a road vs on the track?
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard.
can you really notice PTV on a road vs on the track?
Short answer: Yes
Long answers: https://rennlist.com/forums/981-foru...ctivation.html
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 04:20 PM
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thks fo that guys next on the Piwis 2 list for me
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Old Dec 13, 2023 | 07:02 AM
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PTV works better or worse with Carbon Brakes?
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Old Dec 13, 2023 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard.
PTV works better or worse with Carbon Brakes?
not sure it matters. The braking part of PTV just applies some braking to the inner wheel during a turn forcing a more direct turn. I believe it also only does it at certain speeds. Not sure the braking surface steel or carbon matters.

also turning PTV on has nothing to do with the LSD if you don’t have one.
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Old Dec 13, 2023 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Ernest72
not sure it matters. The braking part of PTV just applies some braking to the inner wheel during a turn forcing a more direct turn. I believe it also only does it at certain speeds. Not sure the braking surface steel or carbon matters.

also turning PTV on has nothing to do with the LSD if you don’t have one.
Agree, it should not matter. I suspect PTV was included with the LSD because usually a mechanical LSD will add a little entry understeer to a car due to some degree of locking even on deceleration. PTV can cure that with a little brake applied to the inside tire at low speed to aid in rotation.

I would wonder if folks who autox or track their cars hard might find turning on PTV (and don't have the LSD) makes the car more prone to an entry spin when trail braking. These cars have all the rotation you could ever want in that situation. Non LSD cars are usually more frisky on entry in general. This is my understanding as to why Lotus avoids LSDs. I think on the street or back roads where you're mostly braking in a straight line and tending to maintenance throttle combined with little lifts for most of a corner, it could be helpful

Side note, would be great if anyone in the DC area had PWIS and could host a 981 steering upgrade party

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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 03:24 PM
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Curious if anyone has tried turning PTV on with a non LSD car? If so how did it work? That to me it's more interesting than steering.
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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nip are
Curious if anyone has tried turning PTV on with a non LSD car? If so how did it work? That to me it's more interesting than steering.
https://rennlist.com/forums/981-foru...ctivation.html
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