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Old 05-06-2014, 12:26 PM
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Now, here is something you don't see everyday:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-968-...ac6838&vxp=mtr
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Interesting... I wonder how they come up the the $18,000 figure for the engine's value, seeing as that's about double what an average 968 is worth.
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Interesting... I wonder how they come up the the $18,000 figure for the engine's value, seeing as that's about double what an average 968 is worth.
That is probably the retail cost on a new 968 motor at your local dealer.
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And this one would have to be completely dismantled and inspected.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbo-Kit-Po...505300&vxp=mtr

I like this better.
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Originally Posted by Paul Waterloo
And this one would have to be completely dismantled and inspected.
Not really. I would drop the pan and check the lower end, check rod and main bolts, oil pump pick up; then pull the valve cover and check cam timing, valve train, timing chain, then scope the cyl bores, spray a little MMO in each cyl bore for initial start up lube, add new plugs and some cam assy lube to the cam lobes, spray some MMO on the cam bearings to penetrate for initial start up lube; replace pan and valve cover. Run a Scotch-Brite pad, fine grit, over the flywheel surface and spray a little LPS 3 lightly coating it. Check timing/balance belt tensions, test or replace thermostat, done. Install in car. Add oil, crank with starter with the coil wire disconnected till we see an oil pressure indication. Then connect coil and good to go. Maybe a couple shop hours max assuming all timing checks are clean. Easy peasy. By no means a complete disassembly, mostly just a visual and making sure the dry engine is properly lubricated for start up. These engines are not brain surgery, not delicate; they are tough, built hell for stout to run hard for years.

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That's at Automobile Atlanta. I would be very, very, very careful before I bought anything from them. Just do a search on them, the owner is legendary (not in a good way) in the 914 world, from shill bidding to VIN switching. Their prices are usually astronomically high, double and triple charge credit cards and often complete crap parts show up at your door when all is said and done. Luckily I got easy after participating in one of their "group buys" for some tail light lenses. 11 MONTHS after I ordered them, they finally showed up, ill fitting and double charged for shipping, finally go the shipping sorted out a couple months later. Only cost me a couple hundred bucks to learn to NEVER do business with them again.
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I guess my point is if that engine is 20 years old, there is a good chance that it needs some work. There is also a chance that it is good as-is. I doubt that the crank has regularly been turned and I would suspect that the cylinder walls and other areas of the engine are rusted.

For $18K, it should be disassembled and inspected, parts replaced, and put back together for you, then served on a gold engine stand.

EDIT: My bad, I see the starting bid is $4,500, I thought it was 18K after reading the description. Maybe this isn't such a bad deal.

I would just buy a low mileage engine with a 968 already attached to it.

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Originally Posted by biosurfer1
That's at Automobile Atlanta. I would be very, very, very careful before I bought anything from them. Just do a search on them, the owner is legendary (not in a good way) in the 914 world, from shill bidding to VIN switching. Their prices are usually astronomically high, double and triple charge credit cards and often complete crap parts show up at your door when all is said and done. Luckily I got easy after participating in one of their "group buys" for some tail light lenses. 11 MONTHS after I ordered them, they finally showed up, ill fitting and double charged for shipping, finally go the shipping sorted out a couple months later. Only cost me a couple hundred bucks to learn to NEVER do business with them again.

Whoa, that's at Auto Atlanta? Paul, I take back everything I said. Run away. Run far, run fast! George Hussey is indeed legendary, in the worst ways imaginable. My very first Porsche was a 75' 914 2.0 I bought back in 1984, I made several mistakes ordering parts from those pirates. I learned. Never again. No matter how good the deal seems. I wouldn't be the least surprised if that block is totally empty unless I saw a video of them opening up the pan and valve cover. It may be perfectly legit, but I wouldn't be the one rolling them dice.

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It would certainly make one heck of a conversation piece under a glass table in a mancave........

I would love to hear how this was acquired. Having friends in Porsche corporate I can tell you that items like this are typically destroyed and do not get into the public venue. It may be completely legit, but I can assure you it's rare.
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It might be an early engine with the bendy rods, you would want to check the engine number. The water neck looks early to me.
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Originally Posted by jeff968
Now, here is something you don't see everyday: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-968-...ac6838&vxp=mtr
Wow. I wish I had the money. That one is beautiful.
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Originally Posted by Jfrahm
It might be an early engine with the bendy rods, you would want to check the engine number. The water neck looks early to me.
Have you actually seen an engine with early rod failure? I have yet to see one (not that I have seen it all).
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I have bought cheap stuff from the seller in the past with no issue but have seen plenty of negative on the forums about the seller.
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I have not personally seen a motor with the superceded rods fail but I have read about a few and a few 928 GTS failures. For a street car I would not be concerned but I would be mindful of fuel quality and engine knock. However if I had the motor out I'd be inclined to change the rods and not worry about it.



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