My 964 C2 Transformation Build Thread
#316
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enjoying the car. Joey made a few setup tweaks yesterday (lowered the back just a tick, pulled back a tick of caster, and reset toe) and the car feels REALLY good. It has grip for days, turns in amazing, and just sticks. cannot WAIT to get some track time on this thing. Oh, and the brakes, holy crap, leave your eyeballs on the pavement stopping power.
went out for a little canyon driving today, amazing weather (sorry east coasters), hung out in malibu, admired MANY amazing cars out enjoying the sunshine.
this is joey's project nasty, my car, and a friends 57 speedster (a real one)
went out for a little canyon driving today, amazing weather (sorry east coasters), hung out in malibu, admired MANY amazing cars out enjoying the sunshine.
this is joey's project nasty, my car, and a friends 57 speedster (a real one)
#317
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Quick update on the build.... so Joey @ E-Motion Engineering did just a fantastic job on the chassis. Looks like I might be able to sneak in a few laps on the track Friday and test it out! Look forward to that!
So what's next? Well, BBI Autosport is going to pickup the next bit of work, and here's what I've so far got on my "build list". Hope to get the car in there around mid march. Looks like a long list but just kinda detailed, summary is some interior finishing, bar, a few exterior body bits, LWFW, rothsport shifter, headers, and other parts...
Ok, so what's next after the below? Probably a tranny regear...
Paint splitters same color as headlight rings (black)
Install Cultwerks splitters front bumper
New lower bumper plastics left/right
Install new lower bumper plastics with cultwerks RS extensions
Cultwerks Carrera RS rear bumper center section + lights
Paint cultwerks center bumper guards red section to match car
Install Rear license lights,screws for RS Bumper
Modify rear bumper, remove extensions drill rivets, etc
Relocate tow hook on rear bumper for Culterwerk bumper
FVD front brakes bumper cooling duct kit, ducts, tubing
Paint FVD cooling ducts guards red
Install front cooling ducts kit from FVD
Paint headlight rings black, install
Ruf A Pillar aero kit
Paint Ruf A Pillar aero parts guards red, install
Getty Carbon RSR wing
Paint Getty wing
Remove old wing, install / mount Getty wing
Remove 2 small door dings (2)
Repair any other body scratches that can be repaired
Full paint correction + underbody detail / cleaning
Appbiz RS perlon carpet kit, BLACK
Mount floor boards above carpets driver/passenger side
Rennline aluminum pedals + dead pedal, perforated silver
Rennline hell toe extension - Red
Rennline floor board drivers silver perforated
Rennline floor board passenger silver perforated
Rennline cup driver side floor board silver
Rennline cup passenger side floor board - silver
Rear cage welded in modeled after RSR
Paint cage + prime/paint weld areas
Reinforce front seat front rail mount positions
Recaro Pole Position seats
Recaro aluminum side mount risers
Recaro sliders drill mount to stock reinforced positions
Brey Krause 9035 sub strap mounts x2
OEM RS mount for inboard seatbelt receptacle 96452106500 x2
Mounting solution for OEM seat belt B pillar mount upper/lower
Retain OEM seat belts (front only) remove rears, mount to roll bar
Inboard harness mounted using Sabelt backing plates, drilled
Sabelt harnesses, red, both seats (aluminum)
Modify front brake shields to clear larger rotors
Replace clutch and brake pedal box bushings (4 total)
Remove cruise control mechanism
Drop engine and transmission
Valve adjustment
Oil and filter change
Install second oil cooler - carnewal?
Refinish fan / housing - paint fan gold or red
Inspect fan and housing for cracking
Wevo Engine mounts 964 (blue pillows/stiffer)
New engine pad, Appbiz - Needed?
Rothsport fan hub single belt
Rothsport pulley half
Rothsport single belt crank pulley with ac
Rothsport support beam
Rothsport headers
Fabricate muffler and exhaust out of 991 turbo s muffler
Custom heat boxes for rothsport headers
Heat shields for lower valve covers / headers
Change tranny fluid - Delvac
Bleed clutch with new brembo fluid
Porsche Light flywheel - RS setup
Balance flywheel/clutch assembly
Rennline Tranny mount
Replace all shifter action bushings
Rothsport billet shifter black
Rothsport goldenrod
Rothsport forward shift rod
So what's next? Well, BBI Autosport is going to pickup the next bit of work, and here's what I've so far got on my "build list". Hope to get the car in there around mid march. Looks like a long list but just kinda detailed, summary is some interior finishing, bar, a few exterior body bits, LWFW, rothsport shifter, headers, and other parts...
Ok, so what's next after the below? Probably a tranny regear...
Paint splitters same color as headlight rings (black)
Install Cultwerks splitters front bumper
New lower bumper plastics left/right
Install new lower bumper plastics with cultwerks RS extensions
Cultwerks Carrera RS rear bumper center section + lights
Paint cultwerks center bumper guards red section to match car
Install Rear license lights,screws for RS Bumper
Modify rear bumper, remove extensions drill rivets, etc
Relocate tow hook on rear bumper for Culterwerk bumper
FVD front brakes bumper cooling duct kit, ducts, tubing
Paint FVD cooling ducts guards red
Install front cooling ducts kit from FVD
Paint headlight rings black, install
Ruf A Pillar aero kit
Paint Ruf A Pillar aero parts guards red, install
Getty Carbon RSR wing
Paint Getty wing
Remove old wing, install / mount Getty wing
Remove 2 small door dings (2)
Repair any other body scratches that can be repaired
Full paint correction + underbody detail / cleaning
Appbiz RS perlon carpet kit, BLACK
Mount floor boards above carpets driver/passenger side
Rennline aluminum pedals + dead pedal, perforated silver
Rennline hell toe extension - Red
Rennline floor board drivers silver perforated
Rennline floor board passenger silver perforated
Rennline cup driver side floor board silver
Rennline cup passenger side floor board - silver
Rear cage welded in modeled after RSR
Paint cage + prime/paint weld areas
Reinforce front seat front rail mount positions
Recaro Pole Position seats
Recaro aluminum side mount risers
Recaro sliders drill mount to stock reinforced positions
Brey Krause 9035 sub strap mounts x2
OEM RS mount for inboard seatbelt receptacle 96452106500 x2
Mounting solution for OEM seat belt B pillar mount upper/lower
Retain OEM seat belts (front only) remove rears, mount to roll bar
Inboard harness mounted using Sabelt backing plates, drilled
Sabelt harnesses, red, both seats (aluminum)
Modify front brake shields to clear larger rotors
Replace clutch and brake pedal box bushings (4 total)
Remove cruise control mechanism
Drop engine and transmission
Valve adjustment
Oil and filter change
Install second oil cooler - carnewal?
Refinish fan / housing - paint fan gold or red
Inspect fan and housing for cracking
Wevo Engine mounts 964 (blue pillows/stiffer)
New engine pad, Appbiz - Needed?
Rothsport fan hub single belt
Rothsport pulley half
Rothsport single belt crank pulley with ac
Rothsport support beam
Rothsport headers
Fabricate muffler and exhaust out of 991 turbo s muffler
Custom heat boxes for rothsport headers
Heat shields for lower valve covers / headers
Change tranny fluid - Delvac
Bleed clutch with new brembo fluid
Porsche Light flywheel - RS setup
Balance flywheel/clutch assembly
Rennline Tranny mount
Replace all shifter action bushings
Rothsport billet shifter black
Rothsport goldenrod
Rothsport forward shift rod
#319
Burning Brakes
Superb. It's spooky I'm working through a very similar list at the moment. All parts purchased and car is about to leave the paint shop. If I survive telling my wife, I'll post a thread too.
#321
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hahahah.... this list + the chassis work just done is a VERY long list!
I took my wife for a drive in the 964 and her reaction was "it feels nice, feels more sporty but not as rough as your gt3rs" The test was her falling asleep heading home. She approves. :thumbs:
I have all but just a couple of the parts in hand. And well, I am trying to not paint the car. I don't want it too nice!
I have all but just a couple of the parts in hand. And well, I am trying to not paint the car. I don't want it too nice!
Last edited by Spyerx; 02-09-2016 at 07:44 PM.
#322
Its a pretty complete build man, the same direction I would go if finances were more friendly.
And I may say this a lot, but dang, Prokect McNasty is just on point appearance/stance wise. Especially considering its all functional.
And I may say this a lot, but dang, Prokect McNasty is just on point appearance/stance wise. Especially considering its all functional.
#323
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Rothsport reinforced engine carrier has arrived. Nice piece!!!
#324
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LOL
The list gets longer every time I see it and you haven't gotten to the widebody build yet. Everytime I open this thread I start jonesing to start some of the same projects. But it wouldn't matter anyhow no place to drive until this mess is washed away. Damn groundhog needs to be shot we still have winter here.
The list gets longer every time I see it and you haven't gotten to the widebody build yet. Everytime I open this thread I start jonesing to start some of the same projects. But it wouldn't matter anyhow no place to drive until this mess is washed away. Damn groundhog needs to be shot we still have winter here.
#325
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Man o manischewitz. And I thought I had a great build. Amazing build, but for the safety of my bank account and mental health, I may need to put you on "Ignore". Every time I click on this thread the wheels start turning. Thanks for sharing!!!
Mike
Mike
#326
couple of comments
w/ your brakes these are totally unnecessary, just using the stock diverters will be fine but if you like the idea ...
again a personal decision, depends on what appearance you want. The oe Sliverknit is much nicer and no heavier, the heavy stuff is all the padding and sound insulation glued to the interior of the chassis.
The drivers side is nice and I use it, there isn't much leg room on the passenger side and the board takes away from that, I bought one then reconsidered and sold the passenger side. Carpet covers that area.
These are nice seats but depending on your stature they can present an issue wrt shoulder harness use. The shoulder holes are so small that for taller drivers especially the shoulder harness won't have a clear fetch to the roll bar tie off. You need a clear unimpeded run from the top of you shoulder or Hans to the the bar tie off, w/ a slight down angle from the shoulder to the bar. The other issue wil be the tunnel side 3 point connection it can be done but the connector will need to be modified to work right. My seats have a taller bolster and couldn't even be modified to work right so I use a slightly modified rear one through the side hole. There is plenty of room for both the 3 point and harness through the side.
since you are using the RS mount for the tunnel side 3 point I'd suggest using the GT3 sub bar. The RS mount and associated leveling washers are all 3mm thick where they are sandwiched btween the skider and sidemount, the Gt3 bar is also 3 mm thicj in this area and works well as a mounting system It also clears the under seat electrics.
Are you retaining the airbags?
If not remove the knee pad and replace w/ either a Rennline piece or an oe from an '89 911
FVD front brakes bumper cooling duct kit, ducts, tubing
Paint FVD cooling ducts guards red
Install front cooling ducts kit from FVD
Paint FVD cooling ducts guards red
Install front cooling ducts kit from FVD
Appbiz RS perlon carpet kit, BLACK
Mount floor boards above carpets driver/passenger side
Recaro Pole Position seats
Brey Krause 9035 sub strap mounts x2
Are you retaining the airbags?
If not remove the knee pad and replace w/ either a Rennline piece or an oe from an '89 911
#327
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Thread Starter
LOL
The list gets longer every time I see it and you haven't gotten to the widebody build yet. Everytime I open this thread I start jonesing to start some of the same projects. But it wouldn't matter anyhow no place to drive until this mess is washed away. Damn groundhog needs to be shot we still have winter here.
The list gets longer every time I see it and you haven't gotten to the widebody build yet. Everytime I open this thread I start jonesing to start some of the same projects. But it wouldn't matter anyhow no place to drive until this mess is washed away. Damn groundhog needs to be shot we still have winter here.
These are nice seats but depending on your stature they can present an issue wrt shoulder harness use. The shoulder holes are so small that for taller drivers especially the shoulder harness won't have a clear fetch to the roll bar tie off. You need a clear unimpeded run from the top of you shoulder or Hans to the the bar tie off, w/ a slight down angle from the shoulder to the bar. The other issue wil be the tunnel side 3 point connection it can be done but the connector will need to be modified to work right. My seats have a taller bolster and couldn't even be modified to work right so I use a slightly modified rear one through the side hole. There is plenty of room for both the 3 point and harness through the side.
since you are using the RS mount for the tunnel side 3 point I'd suggest using the GT3 sub bar. The RS mount and associated leveling washers are all 3mm thick where they are sandwiched btween the skider and sidemount, the Gt3 bar is also 3 mm thicj in this area and works well as a mounting system It also clears the under seat electrics.
Already done, used cup bypass on the tunnel connection, pulled passenger airbag (driver too with the momo wheel), rennline dash and airbag covers installed, oh radio delete panel too. i like the simple clean look. And the thought of a 25+ year old airbag exploding is not attractive.
#328
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A word of caution with the GT3 sub bar. I had them initially and one failed for no apparent reason. Both tabs broke off without any strain and this was mounted to a set of GT3 hardbacks using factory sliders.
In my past life I was certified Level III NDT inspector for PT and RT plus other forms of material testing for years on cast parts. Although without further testing I can only speculate on what caused the failure. What I did observe was clear evidence of oxides in the material and the grain structure looked as though it had not been properly heat treated but I cannot verify this without further testing. I can assure you they did fail without warning. It might have been a fluke but once was enough for me.
In my past life I was certified Level III NDT inspector for PT and RT plus other forms of material testing for years on cast parts. Although without further testing I can only speculate on what caused the failure. What I did observe was clear evidence of oxides in the material and the grain structure looked as though it had not been properly heat treated but I cannot verify this without further testing. I can assure you they did fail without warning. It might have been a fluke but once was enough for me.
#329
hahahah.... this list + the chassis work just done is a VERY long list! I took my wife for a drive in the 964 and her reaction was "it feels nice, feels more sporty but not as rough as your gt3rs" The test was her falling asleep heading home. She approves. :thumbs: I have all but just a couple of the parts in hand. And well, I am trying to not paint the car. I don't want it too nice!
#330
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Don't paint it. Just a good cut and polish. I'm resisting the urge to fully glass out respray my car. Just got back from a canyon run last weekend and lots of loose gravel kicked up. I'd be pissed if the car was freshly painted. I think I'll leave it as is that way I won't be afraid to drive it lol
Will pickup a few more friday at the track!