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Old 11-05-2017, 08:51 AM
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Sorry no pics, but I did this back in Sept. Here's the breakdown of what it cost me.

993 coil pack - I got lucky and found a NOS part off eBay for $190
Distributor to coil wires - Kinspore makes the right wires for $30
993 coil boots - from Porshce for both $15
Heat sink compountd - two little blister tubes that was just enough $3

Bolting the new coil pack right to the existing boss prevents using the boots so I decided to make a new bracket, which is what took me the most time.

I replaced the rotors and caps at the same time.

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Bump for a great thread! Just completed this upgrade today and made a big difference. Start up is now immediate vs a bit sluggish before. Idle is also now pegged right a 880-900 vs ~800 previously. Fiddling with the bracket was a bit of a pain along with making sure the distributor cables were inserted all the way into the new 993 connectors. But otherwise car is running better than ever!
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Old 02-19-2020, 09:26 AM
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Wow this thread is still going, pleased this has worked out well for folks, mine are going strong, never had any issues.
Old 05-11-2020, 07:38 AM
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I'm still confused by the parts. If we don't want to have to go through the trouble of changing lead ends, can't we just by 993 Ingnition Coil Leads?
Coilpack:
993 602 071 00
993 coil pack covers:
993 602 801 00
plus 2 ignition cables from a 993?
Old 05-11-2020, 09:11 AM
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The 993 location for the coil is on the engine hanger right be behind the distributor- so the 993 wires are way to short. I do wonder if they moved it there for better cooling....

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Old 05-11-2020, 02:33 PM
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You can also buy premade wires from europartswest if you don’t want to bother switching the ends but I found it quite easy. I used a blade to cut the rubber on the 964 ends to make sure they unscrewed easily.
Old 05-12-2020, 12:11 PM
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I'm in the process of doing this work also. If I knew the Kingsborne wires were $30 (both?) I would certainly have gone that way - their stuff is excellent and well priced, love the wires they sold me for my Alfa ($35 for the full set, 9mm silicone).

Not knowing that, I ordered Porsche 993 coil end connectors that I will screw onto my stock 964 coil wires. I first verified I could unscrew my stock connectors as some have problems. I'll update this thread when they arrive and I confirm the part is a fit.

best prices I found:
coils https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/por...11-bosch-00095
coil end connectors https://www.delawareporscheparts.com...ug-92860255700
Old 05-12-2020, 04:44 PM
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^^^ Thanks for the link on the coils, placing my order. Earlier today I ordered the custom wires from Kris @ Kingsborne, $40 now but well worth it so I don't have to fiddle with them.
Old 05-12-2020, 04:46 PM
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$40 for both? thats what two of the coil ends work out to - if so, I agree that is a far better solution. no fiddling, have originals to install if ever needed and you get new wires.
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Yes, $40 for both wires in 21" length with 993/964 ends ready to drop in.
Old 05-14-2020, 10:11 PM
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I just completed the swap and can confirm the part number I posted above is correct for the plug ends. One thing I cannot figure out is what type of nut threads on to this very coarse thread which originally held the cable clamp which is a push on.




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I'm not sure I'm going to leave the ignition module there but on preliminary testing I'm getting some rough running. This may be a dumb question but the heat sink behind the ignition control modules is not a ground is it? The wiring diagram makes it seem the ignition modules are grounded via adjacent ground point which I cleaned and tightened.
Old 05-15-2020, 09:38 PM
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What I have to add:

-I also cut the 'wings' off the rearmost black paint bracket
-I retained the front plated bracket. If I had a longer bolt It would need no further modification but I didn't feel like waiting for one so I added a bolt to hold it to the 993 coil sheet metal
-I did above so the ignition modules would be located further up. I checked the clearance to the blower first. Seems like they will get more airflow and be easier to work on here.
-This let me leave the wiring harness below
-I added heat shrink to the coil power connections. It looks dangerously easy for the body of the ring terminals to rotate and touch each other / the opposite stud
-Gut dyno tells me the mod is good for +15hp +19tq. At idle. And it adds VTEC. So I recommend it






Old 05-15-2020, 10:29 PM
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Very nice work. If I didn't have two brand new 964 coils in my parts cabinet I would definitely gone down this path on my current project.
Old 05-15-2020, 11:11 PM
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Looks great! When I went to do mine I found 2 of the wires had been rubbing and the insulation on one was nearly non-existent. Glad I did this and was able to take care of it before anything happened


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