jpoint

Ski - no argument from me on your point. But some guys don't want to take the long road plus you still have to find the $40k 964.

Ski Porsche

Agreed. That’s the challenge in today’s market.

cobalt

I couldn't agree more but the big issue seems to be finding any $40k coupe that doesn't take more than $60k to bring up to most peoples standards. I picked up the **** Box for $33.500 it is the lowest selling coupe I have seen in a long time that had good bones even with some mending needed. If I didn't I plan to do an extreme build so it will be well into 6 figures I wouldn't have considered it as the panels all need to be cut off and replaced, although that was my intention anyhow. When I am done, if I do it properly I know people that will pay $200k or more for it but no stone will be left unturned. I looked at a 90k mile 89 C4 the other day that needed so much work it wouldn't be worth getting into for more than $35k and then it will be a $100k car when done with all the work needed is completed. The seller won't let it go for under $45k and that is just too much IMO for a car with so many needs. I see a lot of 911's all years that are easily exceeding $100k invested when completed. There are deals to be had but few and far between and people seem committed to buying these cars at any price especially if everything has been properly addressed.

I have a friend who purchased a foreclosed house and when he opened the garage it had a 50k mile 87 3.2 Gbody in excellent condition sitting under tarps. It sat for 10 years but a little cleaning and flushing it drives like new. At the same time another friend found a 14 year idle 87 Gbody with 39k original miles and paint and spent >$50k on it and will be putting another $20k into it. Honestly the car was a bargain and would probably sell for even more if he wasn't first to the punch. 6 figures seems to be the all in price for most any of these cars these days if you plan to fix it to pristine condition.

eddieb4

I sold my 27k mile GT3 about 1 1&2 years ago ... while I miss it and it was an incredible machine, I feel my 964 is more of a "lifer" car for me.
As many 964 rennlisters know, 6 years ago I went all in on Tim Olsen's first 964 ground up rebuild and restoration on a 135k mile car that had no rust.
Because it's a higher mileage chassis I don't feel guilty driving it. I also have no worries related to reliability because it was redone to such a high level ... basically a new car which has 5k miles since the rebuild.
Furthermore, I don't have that worry in the back of my mind that if it gets dinged or in a fender bender that the value will be diminished in the way that a low mile original would be.
Plus the car is so much more fun to drive than a stock 964.
My only worry is theft.
My opinion as a driver (not collector) is that my 964 delivered more pleasure than the my low mileage 996 GT3 that I sold, without the worry of banging it up.
Not that it matters to me, but it was almost universal that my family, friends and folks out on the street are pulled much more to the classic lines of the 964 vs the 6GT3.
I would venture to say that pull will continue to be strong, and maybe stronger in the future for the 964 vs the GT3 for the average person.
As far as Porsche collectors go ... the GT car will will win as far as upside value goes.

eddieb4

Pics

WantA997

^ Beautiful!

I keep going back and forth on what's next, and the 996.2 GT3 is consistently at the top of my list.

The trouble is finding one (right now at least).

Sirenty

I agree, my 964 is also a lifer. I’m not replacing the 964 with the GT3; it’s an addition. I think I have a really good 964, which only needs a respray to heal its former track life to be “done”. I keep putting it off because I don’t want to be without the car that long.

The 996 GT3 addition is because I’ve always wanted a GT car, and it seems like the best option to replace the 964 as my track car in the manner I enjoy the track (exploring cars I love in ways I can’t on the street). No nannies, plenty of power, a “challenge”. And less stress about something happening to it. Maybe. I’m wondering if I’ll get as attached to it as I am my 964.

The shop I had the PPI done at is a popular local race and DE shop, and the owner told me the GT3 would actually be easier to drive than my 964 on the track. That was surprising to hear.

eddieb4

I just purchased this 996 H class as my track car ... I only took my GT3 on the track a couple of times and was nervous as heck doing it. This one ... no worries. Not a Metzger engine but fast enough for me and my boys.

rsabeebe

love the color in this shot!

tjb616

Nice pickup. I have a former 993 C2 club race car with only 30k miles Im bringing back to life mechanically and using to learn to drive the air cooled cars on track. In a season or two of DE I'll get it cosmetically restored with fresh paint, etc and likely go the same direction you have, if not spec Cayman. I can't help but wonder though... this is exactly what people were doing with 964's 15 years ago. Will history repeat itself with the 996!? I doubt it, but then again, who knows?

Vegas993

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifi...php?id=2425027

RSA964993

^ The 6 speed manual was super rare on the 91 Targas.^. Has anyone followed up on this ad? Seems to good to be true.

eddieb4

Has to be a misprint.

JAB12

@RSA964993 @eddieb4 I was offered this car off market early last year. It is a 5 speed. It's been priced between $110-$125K in various sites over the last 9 months at least. It may catch up to market. I seriously considered it for a bit but then went with another example from across the pond. Price was to steep for my taste as despite the low mileage, we all know that it will still need the deferred maintenance work to make it whole. Car is nice just not $125K nice IMO. Photos are terrible. Short video walkaround here:

RSA964993

A Targa of all things and in that color. Great to see it’s legit. Agree on the price. Definitely a great starting point considering the rare combination and miles. Toss some Cup One wheels on it and drive it. With the prices we’ve been seeing, who knows! Thanks for sending video.