Originally Posted by cobalt

If that were only the case.

There are numerous charts claiming accurate production numbers which we have learned over the years are all incorrect. Adrian's numbers are all wrong. So many cars have been double counted, Vin numbers starting with 001 vs the actual first vin number begining in 061. There are the M718 coded vin number changes that we still don't have accurate data on and in many cases like the 3.6T were double counted along with some of the C2/C4's, RSA's etc. Even hagerty has production numbers for the 94 turbo as 937 when in actuality we now know only 335 Stock 3.6T's were imported to the US. Then everyone clumps cars like the 3.6RS, 3.8RS, turbo, Turbo S, speedster, RSA, Widebody coupe US and Jubilee, cup cars etc. together. There were more cabs made than coupes. This brings the numbers of eligible C2/ C4 coupes down considerably. Why do you think it is so hard to find a nice C2/C4 lately and 30k mile examples are now seeing close to 6 figures.

When talking just C2/C4 coupes the number is quite low. US spec production is very low with only 3862 89-91 C2/C4's made (Closer to half were C4's) and 1275 92-94 C2/C4's made including tips. We are not at the point where I have seen RSA's used for backdates. Then we have to consider how many have been crashed, abandoned, totaled, have salvage titles, or just plain parted out. there was a time not that long ago you could count nearly 30 cars a month being parted out in the US. I would venture to guess that the total number of C2/C4 coupes surviving today in the US that are not already converted and are worthy of buying is a very small number. Most likely half or less of total US production are still around and a small % of those worth buying.

No doubt there were 22,000 C2/C4 coupes made for the ROW market and now that the 25 year law is making more cars available. But these cars are spread out over the entire world and finding nice ones again is tough and how many have been converted or totaled.

So when you consider just C2/C4 production of around 27,000 produced and consider how many can no longer be counted I imagine the actual number available world wide is far lower than we think. 27,000 is a far cry from 65,000.

I have seen 7 Singers in person. Then there are dozens of others using the 964 for backdates. I can probably count 50 or so that I have seen that were crap. The other issue is a singer car is only a candidate if it comes with its original matching numbers engine which also narrows the list.

Originally Posted by stevesc_us

If anyone is interested in a Targa, I recently looked at this one. Love the color combo and the car is a pretty clean driver. Only reason I'm passing is because I prefer a coupe instead.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/6209532481.html

Originally Posted by thechairman

To me, that's a nice looking targa -- I'm comparing it to 5 other coupes and targas w/at least 90k+ miles that I've been looking at w/asking prices $33k+(all horrible cars imo). Unfortunately, everyone of the 964's that I've looked at was leaking, rough inside and out -- all had bad bad leather and faded busted taillights for instance - and just felt neglected for such a cool car to own. I am beginning to think it's going to cost me over $40k for a 964 before I begin to see cars that would be at least a 7 on the 10 scale -- What is the expert opinion on this SFBay targa for the asking price?

Originally Posted by carioca

1990 C2 manual for sale in Canada for about U$ 39,000 on Autotrader. Its a Canadian car, but being more than 25 years old I would assume it could be imported to the US w/o major hurdles

http://wwwa.autotrader.ca/a/Porsche/...&orup=22_15_23

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Originally Posted by Roque

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Porsche...VZWyWd&vxp=mtr