Great AMERICAN 964s for sale
03-23-2017, 01:55 PM
#2836
Three Wheelin'
Hi all,
991 owner wanting to get back in a 964...
I am currently bidding on this girl and wanted to share and see if anyone has seen it before and can share anything?
I am in touch with seller but not entirely sure the story checks out. I am willing to trust the system though...
What do you think?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/172586131197
991 owner wanting to get back in a 964...
I am currently bidding on this girl and wanted to share and see if anyone has seen it before and can share anything?
I am in touch with seller but not entirely sure the story checks out. I am willing to trust the system though...
What do you think?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/172586131197
03-23-2017, 01:56 PM
#2837
LA is big, there will be lots of guys who can PPI. I think the question is do you trust them to be through and not be convinced of the condition by the shop that brings it to them.
I have dealt with DV Mechanics in LA. Dorian was one of the original Singer engineers. Small shop that knows these cars well.
dv-mechanics.com
Dorian.veloce@gmail.com
I have dealt with DV Mechanics in LA. Dorian was one of the original Singer engineers. Small shop that knows these cars well.
dv-mechanics.com
Dorian.veloce@gmail.com
03-23-2017, 02:48 PM
#2838
Quick look shows the lower part of the rear bumper and rockers were repainted to body color instead of OEM black. Rocker gasket was cut at the shark fin junction, front tow hook plug has paint missing.
As Anthony mentioned, ask for additional pictures as well as a closeup of the blue sticker at the base of the hood.
As Anthony mentioned, ask for additional pictures as well as a closeup of the blue sticker at the base of the hood.
03-23-2017, 03:33 PM
#2839
Rennlist Member
The lower rocker panel covers paint black has always been a point of confusion.
My friends 964 turbo in Midnight blue had never had any paint work period including the bumpers. Very rare to see but being Midnight blue as most I have seen the lower rockers are color coordinated from the factory. It would appear that darker colors were painted body color and lighter colors had the lower portions painted matte black. I don't know where gray falls into play but I believe they should be painted black.
Is it just me or the lighting but do they black rubber trim pieces separating the rear bumper and along the top of the rockers appear to be painted? I would expect more contrast. I would also expect to see more orange peel in the paint. Will be interesting to see what meter readings come back as.
BTW those lower rockers are definitely body color.
My friends 964 turbo in Midnight blue had never had any paint work period including the bumpers. Very rare to see but being Midnight blue as most I have seen the lower rockers are color coordinated from the factory. It would appear that darker colors were painted body color and lighter colors had the lower portions painted matte black. I don't know where gray falls into play but I believe they should be painted black.
Is it just me or the lighting but do they black rubber trim pieces separating the rear bumper and along the top of the rockers appear to be painted? I would expect more contrast. I would also expect to see more orange peel in the paint. Will be interesting to see what meter readings come back as.
BTW those lower rockers are definitely body color.
After looking closer, I think the rocker seals are ok even though a few of the photos show lack of contrast. That alone would be a deal breaker for me if the paint shop was that callous.
I guess it comes down to this, do you want a 964 in a rare color? If so, those defects may be palatable for you. For me, I am super picky on early cars esp those with the known head sealing issue (aluminum intake), less so on the later ones since they are so incredibly rare.
All of them are getting more expensive though.
03-24-2017, 10:58 AM
#2842
Quick update.
Bill is awesome and was able to go see the car in person.
The sum of it all is that it is probably a $38k car. There is definitely some paint work that was done... and done pretty badly. There is also a mileage discrenpency. The interior doesn't show as nice as in the pics.
There is no proof that the head gasket was done so a compression test at TRE was recommended by bill.
That said it starts fine, sounds good, pulls strong and steers straight. Maybe a good driver...
It is already above 41k a day before the auction ends. Not sure I will enter a bid race...since it probably will require thousands of dollars to do preventive work and other paint correction.
I love the color combo though.
Thank you again guys, really appreciate the support.
P.
Bill is awesome and was able to go see the car in person.
The sum of it all is that it is probably a $38k car. There is definitely some paint work that was done... and done pretty badly. There is also a mileage discrenpency. The interior doesn't show as nice as in the pics.
There is no proof that the head gasket was done so a compression test at TRE was recommended by bill.
That said it starts fine, sounds good, pulls strong and steers straight. Maybe a good driver...
It is already above 41k a day before the auction ends. Not sure I will enter a bid race...since it probably will require thousands of dollars to do preventive work and other paint correction.
I love the color combo though.
Thank you again guys, really appreciate the support.
P.
03-24-2017, 11:04 AM
#2843
Quick update.
Bill is awesome and was able to go see the car in person.
The sum of it all is that it is probably a $38k car. There is definitely some paint work that was done... and done pretty badly. There is also a mileage discrenpency. The interior doesn't show as nice as in the pics.
There is no proof that the head gasket was done so a compression test at TRE was recommended by bill.
That said it starts fine, sounds good, pulls strong and steers straight. Maybe a good driver...
It is already above 41k a day before the auction ends. Not sure I will enter a bid race...since it probably will require thousands of dollars to do preventive work and other paint correction.
I love the color combo though.
Thank you again guys, really appreciate the support.
P.
Bill is awesome and was able to go see the car in person.
The sum of it all is that it is probably a $38k car. There is definitely some paint work that was done... and done pretty badly. There is also a mileage discrenpency. The interior doesn't show as nice as in the pics.
There is no proof that the head gasket was done so a compression test at TRE was recommended by bill.
That said it starts fine, sounds good, pulls strong and steers straight. Maybe a good driver...
It is already above 41k a day before the auction ends. Not sure I will enter a bid race...since it probably will require thousands of dollars to do preventive work and other paint correction.
I love the color combo though.
Thank you again guys, really appreciate the support.
P.
03-24-2017, 01:28 PM
#2844
Rennlist Member
This car looks OK to me, but man, what a weird spec. OK, 4 options available: LSD, sunroof, radio, AC. So let's spec the sunroof and LSD. If you're going for light, no sunroof!!! Weird. But a radio was added...
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/199...11-rs-america/
RSA to me has NO additional value unless it's a no sunroof car. Its the same as a C2 with manual steering.
But no sunroof from the factory would be cool.
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/199...11-rs-america/
RSA to me has NO additional value unless it's a no sunroof car. Its the same as a C2 with manual steering.
But no sunroof from the factory would be cool.
Dang you're good!
@ $84,000 with 2hr 45min left.
03-24-2017, 01:39 PM
#2846
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Mike's '93 RSA (also white/black, 58k mi, minor paint/bodywork, LSD/radio only) was bid to $95k in October, so curious to see where this ends up.
03-24-2017, 04:11 PM
#2847
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03-24-2017, 08:16 PM
#2849
Three Wheelin'
Quick update.
Bill is awesome and was able to go see the car in person.
The sum of it all is that it is probably a $38k car. There is definitely some paint work that was done... and done pretty badly. There is also a mileage discrenpency. The interior doesn't show as nice as in the pics.
There is no proof that the head gasket was done so a compression test at TRE was recommended by bill.
That said it starts fine, sounds good, pulls strong and steers straight. Maybe a good driver...
It is already above 41k a day before the auction ends. Not sure I will enter a bid race...since it probably will require thousands of dollars to do preventive work and other paint correction.
I love the color combo though.
Thank you again guys, really appreciate the support.
P.
Bill is awesome and was able to go see the car in person.
The sum of it all is that it is probably a $38k car. There is definitely some paint work that was done... and done pretty badly. There is also a mileage discrenpency. The interior doesn't show as nice as in the pics.
There is no proof that the head gasket was done so a compression test at TRE was recommended by bill.
That said it starts fine, sounds good, pulls strong and steers straight. Maybe a good driver...
It is already above 41k a day before the auction ends. Not sure I will enter a bid race...since it probably will require thousands of dollars to do preventive work and other paint correction.
I love the color combo though.
Thank you again guys, really appreciate the support.
P.