Porsche964FP

STOP THE PRESS!

Am I dreaming or is this you?

https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...wide-body.html

This advert dates from 10/05/11, stating the car has had 'Engine complete rebuild - zero miles
New alternator'

Today 17/05/11 you state the car is the garage and that work has as of yet not begun and may not.

If I understand correctly you have falsely advertised - as this work has not even begun and may not do.

Am I right or am I missing something here?

Because your credibility is ever thinning as this whole situation unfolds.

swftiii

Guy,

Sorry for your experience, it does suck. We would all share in your pain and be supportive if you communicated your frustration that way, but it sounds like you just want to bash the brand that everyone on this board loves...not a good way to make friends and get some moral and technical support and help to get through this situation without costing you $14k.

Most of the folks here could provide some great advice on how to get your car on the road for your enjoyment for a fraction of the $14k.

I personally believe you didn't know what you were getting into and therefore have jumped off a big cliff and weren't ready for that. These are 20 year old cars and have 20 year old technology, so comparing to a modern car isn't fair at all.

I find it hard to believe that you drove into the mechanics shop and the engine felt good (wouldn't have taken delivery 68 miles before if it didn't at least drive well...right) and now it needs a full blown re-build ($14k is a full blown rebuild). I would absolutely get a second opinion...oil leaks and a Porsche 911 kinda go hand in hand.

Just doing a simple search here would have easily provided you some caution that likely you would need to do a re-seal on the engine that has only travelled 10k miles in 10 years (especially since it could have been only 100 miles in the last couple years, noone really knows).

Couple other comments:
1. Listen to some of the folks here - look for a used engine - I saw one recently that would replace your needed rebuild for somewhere around $7k and for an additional $k it would be installed and you are off and running.
2. As for your performance comment, these cars are quite fast compared to any SUV, but you also need to know where the power band is. You are not going to pass anyone in 5th gear at 60mph quickly, but downshift to 3rd and it is a whole new beast. These cars and engines love driving closer to red line and in the power zone.

Ask for help and the Rennlisters will help you out of the situation with as little pain as possible...all you have to do is ask.

-Skip

Crystal Cranks

They (Porsche) seem to like it enough to use it in the 996 GT3 and turbo and it worked out pretty well compared to the standard block. (but thats a whole other rant )

GuyMonnin

Will you, my fellow Porsche owners, help me pay for the repairs?

I wanted to put in a "new" used motor but, I was afraid I would be installing more of the same...an engine that was a rebuild waiting to happen.

When I posted the for sale advet, I assumed the car would be rebuilt prior to getting any real activity. Then...the call from my mechanic asking me to come down and look at the cams etc. My initial panic when the rebuild went from $9K to 14K. Then, anger set in. Anger!!!! Why does something so cool (and damn, they are cool) have to have faults???!!!!

The guy who sold me the car was more devistated than I was. Problem is, he TRULY spent the money. Even so, he chipped in thousands towards the repairs. Class act. I am going to get it done, and done right (New cams, rings, etc. etc.).

My mechanic builds racing Porsche motors for drivers who run at Mid Ohio. He knows his stuff.

He suggested having my cams modified to RS specs? Should I? Also, Should I bore out to 3.8 while I'm at it?

He is also putting in a light flywheel. I don't know what this is but he said while I'm at it...thoughts?

I want this car bullet proof. Since I am buying in bulk, should I add anything else of value to my order???

Thanks for your kind words everyone.

BTW, you say Honda like its a bad thing...

goofballdeluxe

Guy, I noticed you didn't answer whether or not you got a PPI and a leakdown/compression test before you bought. If you didn't get a PPI, stop complaining. You did this to yourself.

You may be a great guy, but you're coming across a little shady, especially with that for sale ad with false info. I sense more red flags than a Chinese airport.

If you were trying to sell the car under false pretenses, you may just be getting some Karmic payback. Who knows.

wellcraft290

LOL so now your posting lies to try to sell the car before it is repaired LOL
Now anyone looking at your car will most likely ask here if we know the car and we will and we will tell him it is "junk"

Makmov

Well you just don't bore it out to make it a 3.8, you buy a set of oversized pistons and cylinders $4500.

You are going to double the cost of an engine rebuild easy at the rate your talking.

It costs just about as much to do a light weight flywheel as it does to replace a DMF, so you gotta ask yourself what are you going to use the car for.

Honda isn't bad but sure is boring.

GuyMonnin

Hi all. No, I didn't do a PPI, other than:
The car just had a servo being replaced by the mechanic who had worked on it for years. I called this mechanic and he said he considered this a great and sound car.

The owner was typical Porsche. Meticulous and ****. He had a receipt for everything that had ever been done to the car. It had never been driven in the rain and sat in his garage from October to late May. Plus, he did NOT want to sell the car. His wife was making him sell it for financial reasons. He even tried asking more for it in person than the advertised price to stop someone from buying it (his wife chewed him out for this). Selling it broke his heart.

When I drove off, I saw him in my rear view mirror just standing there, head down, like he just gave away his dog because he couldn't afford to feed it. I truly felt bad for the guy. Once again, when he found out about the issues, he was devistated but stepped up with above 4K towards repairs. Class act.

KaiB

Guy, you're doing the right thing. Get the motor done up right and then go have fun. It's a love thing.

If you have to ask about the flywheel, you may not want to go that route. Research here: Keywords would be LWF, RS flywheel or light flywheel.

You do not want a low key 3.8 build. A top of the line job with the right parts and goodies may be just the ticket for some, but you're talking big bucks for not much gain. Spend a bit of coin on exhaust, reasarch the cams here also and then go have fun!!

I now believe your soul is in the right place, stay here, learn and look forward in anticipation to the rest of the year.

Good luck, Kai

GuyMonnin

I'm not posting lies and if you don't want to buy the car, don't (I couldn't care less). I am too frustrated to start "effectively initiating a marketing plan" Haha.

I'm just in too deep. I have to either sell as is for a HUGE loss or fix it right. And I mean RIGHT. I am a Christian and I don't want this to ever happen to another. Chances are, whoever is buying the car is going to be stretching financially to do so (like I was) or they wouldn't be buying a 21 year old car. The last thing I want to do is pass problems forward.

I was just wondering if there was something I could do while it was tore down in order to help increase the resale value at the time of sale. I am probably going to have to sell it to afford/justify the repairs at this point...

I'd have 4K in just getting it put back together at this point. Might as well do it up now.

Thanks all and I'm sorry for my initial anger.

Jim Richards

With a 3.8 and that BIG wing, your car will fly. In a good way.

Randy V

Classic noob.

You post here AFTER you buy the car to complain that you bought a car while completely uninformed.

Silly boy.

LastMezger

I see your problem...it's a cab.

Laker

hey now.....
If it wasn't below freezing 9 months a year up north, you'd appreciate the top-down experience too!

Atgani

So you relied on the words of a mechanic who knew the car, a bunch of reciepts and your own (seemingly poor) judgement to buy a 20 year old car ? More fool you.

After your initial post I think you're misguided to expect too much in the way of sympathy on here, you failed (spectacularly) to do even the bare minimum to ensure your purchase was good (that being to have a full pre-purchase inspection carried out by an independant specialist, along with a leakdown or compression test)

As many have said on here, you Googled too little too late, now you're p*ssed at yourself for making the most basic of errors prior to purchase.

Admit the error of your ways, stop knocking a fantastically engineered product that will run for mile upon mile (if correctly maintained and used) and move on.

I'm an avid BMW fan, but don't kid yourself that they're without their faults :

http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/...l-flaps-t5537/

And if you still don't bevideo linklieve they have issues, try Googling BMW E46 cracked floor . . . .