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Old 07-22-2024, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jeff33702
A mix... My point was that different people value different things. 1/4 color somewhat trumps higher mileage for some while others wouldn't touch anything over 20k miles
I get the one 1/4 point just like my turbo is 1/2 in the world with black interior and 1/3 in cobalt in the US. But we are talking RS and turbo 3.3 money. Sorry to say but if you are buying a collector car 100k miles won't cut it IMO 1/4 or not in this economy maybe in 6 months or so. There are some nice US spec cup cars for the similar money and it is a superior car in every respect but only in white.
Old 07-22-2024, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
I would love an RSR the red one is quite the original example.

I do find it interesting that they are holding back on the 3.6T valuations. I guess they aren't sure after their comments about the 3.6T not being rare enough. I don't want to say anything about the cobalt blue car but I have videos and pics of the car from 20 years ago and i find it odd knowing the seller that the front hood crest is incorrect with such low miles. One of just 2 spec'd this way in the world. Although I don't have a full leather dash but I probably have one of the first exclusive CF dash handbrake and shifter ****. The white car has some ?? Almost the same vin as mine. The wheels appear to have been refinished and valve stems incorrectly aligned on some of the wheels. It appears that the etchings are missing as well but hard to see. The vin tag on the rear deck lid is in the wrong location but I am assuming it was that way from day 1.

I guess we will see what the market says about color and the model itself. Still one of the rarest std production air-cooled and the rarest turbo air-cooled made.
The red RSR was sold at Gooding in Monterey a couple years ago. Remember seeing it there and was a beautiful car. My ultimate 964 however would be a RS 3.8 street car.

I think it was someone from RM that said the 3.6 Turbo was overvalued as they made too many. Even if you count in every iteration 3.6T (“package” cars, Flachbau, etc.) production numbers are about the same as the ‘73 2.7 RS. Should be interesting to see what these two 3.6’s do. I’d take your cobalt over this RoW car any day of the week. Am interested to see what the USA Cup car does. Difficult to put a number on one of these. Noted a few things with it, but think it’s still a very nice car.
Old 07-22-2024, 07:44 PM
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1580 for the 73 RS and 1407 for the 3.6T including all the S models. I am hoping to see more interest in the Cup's as well. I think they are still misunderstood and completely undervalued for a clean example.
Old 07-23-2024, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
1580 for the 73 RS and 1407 for the 3.6T including all the S models. I am hoping to see more interest in the Cup's as well. I think they are still misunderstood and completely undervalued for a clean example.
Not a lot of cars left that have virtually remained unmolested. I have seen at least 7 of the 16 port cars have been cut up and converted at some point whether it was by Andial or someone else. So that leaves 9 port cars or 13 including the part cars (only thing Andial really did to these was dyno and seal engines) which have remained virtually unmolested from factory.

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Old 07-23-2024, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
I don't want to say anything about the cobalt blue car but I have videos and pics of the car from 20 years ago and i find it odd knowing the seller that the front hood crest is incorrect with such low miles.
I upgraded the hood crest to a 993 crest on my Cobalt 964 20+ years ago simply because I liked it better, kept the original crest. Hood itself is still original with original paint, just saying
Old 07-24-2024, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bb964
I upgraded the hood crest to a 993 crest on my Cobalt 964 20+ years ago simply because I liked it better, kept the original crest. Hood itself is still original with original paint, just saying
The point being is the car is being sold as an all original low mile example. The crest is not original and you can easily buy new ones today that would be correct. I have a silver one on my turbo with the original one in a box.

Best pic I have.
Old 07-25-2024, 06:41 PM
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Couple 964’s that are currently for sale.

Non-sunroof Black ‘93 RSA showing 15k miles and appears to have at least 2 options (radio and A/C). Can’t tell if it has LSD. Looks pretty much completely stock except the brakes which look like RS 3.8 spec. Price is $255k.

https://www.hemmings.com/listing/199...america-501388

Amethyst/black ‘94 C2 Cabriolet showing 83k miles. Price is $80k.

https://www.europeancollectibles.com...ra-2-cabriolet
Old 07-30-2024, 09:36 PM
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GP White/black ‘92 C2. Shows 23k miles and has sport seats. Says it’s a Canadian market example, but has a MPH speedo. Not sure if Canadian car originally came with this or was switched out from a KPH speedo. Also description says it was originally optioned with Cup 1’s, but COA doesn’t say so. COA maybe wrong and wouldn’t the first time. However can’t see the options sticker underneath the hood. Looks like a nice car and saw it at EPE getting worked on when I took in my cars in for service a few weeks ago.

https://copleymotorcars.com/?showroo...5-speed-manual
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Old 07-31-2024, 09:04 AM
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AT least the CUps are the correct size and they don't reference XD4 either so I am assuming possibly dealer added. Nice looking example. Do you have a price? I suspect it will be up there.
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Originally Posted by cobalt
AT least the CUps are the correct size and they don't reference XD4 either so I am assuming possibly dealer added. Nice looking example. Do you have a price? I suspect it will be up there.
I don’t unfortunately. Know it was listed with a private seller earlier this year for $170k.
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Couple 964’s that are currently for sale.

Non-sunroof Black ‘93 RSA showing 15k miles and appears to have at least 2 options (radio and A/C). Can’t tell if it has LSD. Looks pretty much completely stock except the brakes which look like RS 3.8 spec. Price is $255k.

https://www.hemmings.com/listing/199...america-501388

Amethyst/black ‘94 C2 Cabriolet showing 83k miles. Price is $80k.

https://www.europeancollectibles.com...ra-2-cabriolet

Been staring at that Amethyst cab for a while. Even for a great color like that and a 1994, it's pricey for a cab with a black interior.

Also really waiting for the right ROW RS to pop up before I surprise my wife with another car.
Old 08-02-2024, 01:43 PM
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purchase price (in USD please)
purchase date
mileage
state or country where purchased
Model year
C2 or C4
Coupe, targa or cab
color
tip or manual
NA or turbo
any aftermarket accessories that came with the car (including but not limited to wheels, suspension, exhaust, seats, stereo, mirrors, pedals, steering wheel, etc.)
did the vehicle come with tool kit
did the vehicle come with tire inflator kit
your assessment of the vehicle history in terms of paperwork/receipts (1-10, 10 being highest)
your assessment of the interior quality (1-10, 10 being highest)
your assessment of the exterior quality (1-10, 10 being highest)
your assessment of the mechanical condition of the vehicle (1-10, 10 being highest)
Old 08-02-2024, 11:25 PM
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Guess I’ll contribute to the original intent of this thread as I’ve been one of the guys that’s steered it away from that. Not sure the good of adding mine considering the model and when it was bought.

purchase price (in USD please): $430,000
purchase date: March 24, 2022
mileage: 5,243 miles
state or country where purchased: Texas
Model year: 1992
C2 or C4: C2 Carrera Cup USA
Coupe, targa or cab: Coupe
color: Grand Prix White over black
tip or manual: Manual
NA or turbo: NA
any aftermarket accessories that came with the car (including but not limited to wheels, suspension, exhaust, seats, stereo, mirrors, pedals, steering wheel, etc.): Pretty much none
did the vehicle come with tool kit: Yes
did the vehicle come with tire inflator kit: Yes
your assessment of the vehicle history in terms of paperwork/receipts (1-10, 10 being highest): 10 (boxes of documentation from new including original bill of sale and temporary registration)
your assessment of the interior quality (1-10, 10 being highest): 10 (highly original interior in great condition)
your assessment of the exterior quality (1-10, 10 being highest): 10 (original paint with very few chips or blemishes. Wheels in great condition)
your assessment of the mechanical condition of the vehicle (1-10, 10 being highest): 10 (had Automobile Associates go through the car and needed nothing besides an oil change and new tires as the ones that were on it were 30 years old)

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Old 08-05-2024, 03:00 PM
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Anyone know this Targa?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...mpaign_2648441
Was listed by same dealer for $109k before coming to BAT.
Old 08-06-2024, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by motobri
Anyone know this Targa?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...mpaign_2648441
Was listed by same dealer for $109k before coming to BAT.
Seller noted it had various repainted panels. Also has the notorious front frown and the split on the rear spoiler. According to records the car was not running earlier this year so may’ve been sitting for a while.


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