jeff33702

PS - a different conversation but mine is a Tip and should fall into the VIN range of having the early rear suspension chassis - but it looks like it has the later.

Next thing it to start a new rumor and check for seam welding on this bad boy! hahaha

darylbowden

Thoughts from the experts on this Ruby 964 RS on BAT?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...carrera-rs-18/

RapidGT

Car has had a good amount of paintwork (not necessarily a bad thing depends on why it was done). Paint quality looks somewhat ok some panel gaps don’t look absolutely perfect though it’s acceptable. Also the carpeting at least in the rear to me looks to have been replaced at some point (maybe a roll bar or cage was removed). Whoever reapplied the ‘Carrera’ and ‘RS’ badging on the rear deck lid placed them too close together. Noticeable to me and looks off. Not a bad car would make a good driver.

cobalt

^ I agree although some of the panels show a lot of peppering possibly touched up and buffed out after the paintwork so the car was driven. So hard to tell. The RoW cars can be a bit of a crap shoot.

RapidGT

The car was absolutely driven since the paintwork was performed. Not a recently done job. Doesn’t look to be the worst paint I’ve seen, but certainly not the best. Difficult to get a feel for some of these cars just by looking at photos. In person can tell pretty quickly if it’s in my eyes a good or bad car. RoW cars it’s also difficult to read the documentation (unless you speak the given foreign language or spend a lot of time trying to translating it) and a lot have unknowns about their history abroad. North American delivered cars can also have the same unknowns, but don’t seem to have quite as many.

cobalt

I find it far easier to find info on North American cars than RoW. I have seen far too many RoW cars claiming simple paintwork only to find the odo turned back and far more happening than claimed. Especially the Japanese imports. Although each car has its story and given enough time and looking over the car it becomes apparent. I don't see the value in many of these RS's. I have come across a few that are worthy of their asking but sadly too rich for my retired mans wallet and asking leaves little on the table to flip and I suspect it will be a while before a profit can be made at the asking. I need to unload 2 981's this spring.

darylbowden

Agree with that. Prices are clearly coming down, but RSes like this one (which is clearly not a garage queen and has a bit of an unknown history but is a desirable color) are a good buy in the 200-225k range. Being that this is a Ruby car, somebody will overpay for it.

rsabeebe

one of the 17 'package' cars is up on BaT. 14k miles. ordered right here in Dallas at Park Place.

$1.2 to $1.5M?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...911-turbo-s-3/

jreifler

So much want. The Flachbau version of that car was - insanely - my first 911 drive. I detailed cars in a wealthy area of LA during high school, and was introduced to a guy with this car in midnight blue metallic. He was an 18-year old Wrigley heir, and had an insane collection. This and an F40 were my top objects of lust. He inexplicably let me drive the 3.6 briefly and slowly, and I was ruined from that day forward.

cobalt

I don't get the need to paint these cars wit such low miles as several up for sale have been and did not come close. I would prefer the car to be original if I am going to spend in excess of 7 figures.

RapidGT

This one sold for $1.1 million at RM a couple years ago. I’m thinking it will do about the same this time round. Car has been repainted which may detract a bit. The fact it is not a black car will command a premium as majority are black (this is 1 of 2 in white). This white car was actually part of a collection in the midwest that consisted of two other ‘package’ cars. One was this white car, second was a black car that was 1 of 2 delivered to Canada (sold for $912k a couple years ago with RM), and third a black US delivered car (sold for $1.187 million last year with RM).

Old RM listing:
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/a...ackage/1209990

Older listing:
https://www.2shores.com/en/cars/offe...--1/370/detail

Three ‘package’ car collection:
https://www.2shores.com/en/cars/offe...17!/353/detail

darylbowden

Great car but obviously an investment asset, not a car anybody will drive anymore (although if someone does buy it and does drive it, good for them!). There's no world in which this is worth the premium it commands over a normal Turbo 3.6 if it weren't for the rarity. Definitely an IYKYK car and I do like these much more than the Flachbau versions.

I think @RapidGT is right on the pricing. There's not a giant pool of people who are bidding on cars like these and they know how every example has traded in the last few years so I doubt we'll see some outlier result here.

RapidGT

Maybe the previous owner was insanely OCD and didn’t want even minor paint imperfections from the very limited miles the car has. Also have heard of people repainting a car (even if it has perfect condition original paint) because the paint quality from the factory wasn’t up to their standards. Not so much with Porsche’s, but with other brands such as Ferrari. These are rare cases so not very likely it’s those with this car.

Carrera51

Ditto on why a 13K mile car would need a repaint. That seems strange for such low miles and on a car hasn't seen much daylight in the past 30 years.

jreifler

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ra-2-coupe-18/

Branded title since the 2019 BaT sale ? That's gonna be a bummer for seller, as it appears they voluntarily disclosed not actual mileage when registering in NJ based only a speedo repair . . . ?

But looks like they "lost" ~5k miles on the speedo repair ? Weird.