RapidGT

RoW Polar Silver/Midnight Blue non-sunroof ‘93 C2. Shows 176k km (109k miles). Asking $160k.

https://zweck.com/i-30522771-1993-po...carrera-2.html

cobalt

Nice looking slick top. I wish them luck at the asking vs miles. Hard to say but the wheels look like factory speedlines but have RH bolts in gold finish and incorrect center caps for a 93. I guess they are factoring in the cost of the wheels in the price.

Carrera51

Same year and color combination as mine.

jreifler

Ambitious for the mileage, but doesn't seem outlandish considering this result: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ra-2-coupe-16/

I think the color combo and slicktop will command a premium there.

This was also posted in classifieds yesterday: https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1379449

Needs to add quite a bit of detail and pics.

jeff33702

My color with wheel I am considering... hmmmm

cobalt

I can understand the RSA's asking much more than a C2. RSA's notoriously bring more based on the exclusivity of it being an RSA for the few that see them as special. I have seen some very nice lower mile C2's bring much more but they checked every box in a unique color 100% original and were close to #1 cars. As Far as BaT nothing surprises me there. Only a fool would buy sight unseen on BaT. They won't allow the hard questions to be asked so many buy thinking the car is nicer than they usually are only to find they bought a project. The white car in at $140k is a bit less than $160k but overpaid IMO. The white car has clear signs of some paintwork and a lot of primping. Looks like possible rear main seal and power steering pump leaks. Non OE original windshield cowl painted, aero vs flag mirrors, RoW rear bumper. Although the paint could be original it is hard to tell with white. I would need to see the car up close but the seller has sold cars they had repainted to a high level without disclosing it before. I suspect there is more there than meets the eye. Even on white no rock chips period?? Does not add up. I guess with 62k miles I better up my insurance. Originality seems less and less important these days.

Greg Wolfe

The 964's just keep becoming more and more rare. It's obviously not going to get any better for future buyers. Before we know, you will need new GT3 money to buy a nice example. I have mixed feelings about this.

Mr. Wolfe

mic_crispy

It certainly changes the experience and value proposition abit. I do hesitate abit now taking my 964 to do daily tasks given it's value and how much is stress even over a scratch, rock chips or door ding etc.

Greg Wolfe

I hear you. I try to ignore that and enjoy the car when I want. I did up my agreed value to $150k so I don't get bent over if something did happen.

Mr. Wolfe

jreifler

I split the difference by being wildly obsessive about care / condition, but stacking up the (s)miles all the same. But in my case, I've only had the car since Feb, and so still in the phase where I can't help but drive it any time I get the chance. It's just so good. I guess it's possible I'll start feeling worse about driving it as time goes on . . .

Carrera51

I drive mine on nice days and on trips to Summit Point and VIR. No short trips less than 50-60 miles to make sure the engine gets nice and wam and defintely after dark this time of year since I live in the country and the deer are running.

I don't worry too much about rock chips since it spent a lot of time on track from 1998 til 2008, the last time I took it on the track.

Greg Wolfe

It ALWAYS feel so good to drive. Actually, the best driver's car I have ever drove. It's addicting and pure. Mine has 119k miles and I do drive it. Like you, I am pretty meticulous as well.

Mr. Wolfe

Turbo Jonny

Cup Car with race history https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-de...sale-ag-u3700/

cobalt

I have had many changes in attitude over my 20+ years of 964 ownership. I have to admit I enjoyed these better when they were affordable and not on everyones radar. I miss the days when I could drive my turbo anyplace and the worst I had to worry about was a door ding. Today you don't know if it will be there when you get back. I can do without the swarms of people that surround the 964's anytime I leave them someplace and I have to politely decline nonsensical offers as they have me blocked in. Although the red GT4 does the same but a different crowd.

I have to start weeding down the heard as all these cars take up far too much time and money to maintain. I enjoy working on them but sometimes it becomes a job. Thankfully I have enough spares to build 2 more cars so I am set for a while but when I look at the parts alone and what was once practically free now costing thousands from Porsche you have to wonder where this is all heading.

Ironically I recently stole a 981 GT4 with 3k miles yet it still cost me more than I paid for my 3.6 turbo, C2, and the 83k mile C4 donor I used for the Blue Meanie combined. Although this was between 2000 and 2015 when these were just metal and money bought something. I agree prices will climb but how far can it reasonably go? I love my cars but as I get older and have had decades of fun enjoying them I have to wonder are they worth this much?




Heck yeah!!!

jreifler

Our mileage is almost identical! Have to agree re: the driving experience. Just so engaging and satisfying. All the sights, sounds, smells, and feels are everything I want from a sports car. I had my GT4 and GT3 concurrently with the 964, and after a while, there was no contest on which keys I'd grab for a drive. Always 964. Still have the GT3, but it's fractionally as enjoyable as a street car. Too much to exploit safely / reasonably.

I'm sure there's a ceiling, but the confluence of very low supply and increasingly rabid demand doesn't seem to point towards softening (normal market adjustments aside). I'm sure 10 years ago, no one thought the entry point for a clean, no-stories 964 would be 100k. I wouldn't be surprised if that number is 200k in 10 more years. As ICE phases out and new cars move further away from the "rawness" of the 964, 993, 996, 997 experience, I think they'll all keep going up. And I'm seeing more and more enthusiasm for those cars from earlier millenials now, too. So as their earning potential increases in the next decade, and those cars increasingly represent an experience they can't find in newer models, I think the demand only goes further up.